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作者: 阿海 时间: 2009-7-15 15:41:42 标题: 生意退税$3,400 =)

昨天生意退税IRD还了我$3,400, 呵呵有钱了

作者: Kidding 时间: 2009-7-15 15:44:07

有钱人啊！！！！！

[ 本帖最后由 Kidding 于 2009-7-15 14:46 编辑 ]

作者: pAtrick 时间: 2009-7-15 15:46:40

嗯~我都差点忘了，得催ird给我refund...

作者: Kidding 时间: 2009-7-15 15:47:55

海公公今年退了多少啊？

退完之后会摆流水席吗？

作者: pAtrick 时间: 2009-7-15 15:50:20

退多少不能说……说了我会被打死的

既然不说当然也不摆酒席啦

作者: 零度冰 时间: 2009-7-15 15:52:14

LS的都是啥生意？。。。。。

作者: Kidding 时间: 2009-7-15 15:52:26

原帖由 pAtrick 于 2009-7-15 14:50 发表
退多少不能说……说了我会被打死的

既然不说当然也不摆酒席啦

那。。。。你请我吃饭，偷偷告诉我，我不告诉别人是你说的。行吗？

作者: pAtrick 时间: 2009-7-15 15:53:19

你请我吃我考虑下

作者: 零度冰 时间: 2009-7-15 15:53:44

ls的好狡猾。。编辑帖子

作者: Kidding 时间: 2009-7-15 15:55:10

编辑以前他说了啥？

作者: pAtrick 时间: 2009-7-15 15:56:47

我哪有编辑贴子……

作者: Kidding 时间: 2009-7-15 15:57:57

哦，原来说的是我。。。。。。我自首。。。。。。。申请宽大。。。。。。。

作者: jiayi982 时间: 2009-7-15 16:18:11

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作者: hitye 时间: 2009-7-15 16:22:43

我的支票怎么还没到啊。。

作者: judyzhu81 时间: 2009-7-15 16:37:47

如果你把银行帐号给IRD的话，一般第二，三天钱就会到你帐上。

所谓的1W loss，可能是账面上的，cashflow上也许还是盈余。

作者: nziceice 时间: 2009-7-15 16:51:53

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作者: 狮小米 时间: 2009-7-15 16:54:02

作者: hitye 时间: 2009-7-15 16:57:29

原帖由 nziceice 于 2009-7-15 15:51 发表
够带女朋友去FIJI玩了

三月快来接领子

作者: 阿海 时间: 2009-7-15 17:10:21

原帖由 nziceice 于 2009-7-15 15:51 发表
够带女朋友去FIJI玩了

恩是啊，但可能会存钱买戒指先呢

我也没想到IRD退钱那么快，周日才做好的，昨天就到账上了。

生意成本只有3千多，基本上我这生意没什么成本的，还没把收入算进去呢。

作者: 你是我的天使 时间: 2009-7-15 17:15:39

听起来很像是做安利然后退GST的？？？？

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2009-7-16 12:37:03

原帖由 hitye 于 2009-7-15 15:57 发表

三月快来接领子

才看到

作者: hitye 时间: 2009-7-16 12:41:35

原帖由 love_3_month 于 2009-7-16 11:37 发表

才看到

不知道说你啥好了。。。唉

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2009-7-16 12:49:51

你的勋章哪里来的啊, 怎么换的

没做啥对不起观众的事吧

作者: hitye 时间: 2009-7-16 12:50:36

在skykiwi 买了电脑。。。送的

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2009-7-16 12:51:49

钱机交易啊

作者: hitye 时间: 2009-7-16 12:52:33

24寸大屏幕就是爽啊

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2009-7-16 12:54:04

看啥都大当然就爽了

作者: hitye 时间: 2009-7-16 12:55:14

但是。。。冰冰怎么胖了

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2009-7-16 12:58:35

和我一样, 用的是宽屏啊

看三月就不瘦了

作者: pAtrick 时间: 2009-7-16 13:07:28

上图……

作者: 锤子+小刀 时间: 2009-7-16 13:09:15 标题: 回复 30# pAtrick 的帖子

LS是在炫耀吗？？

作者: 二舅 时间: 2009-7-16 13:11:43

哈哈哈，有的地方要打马赛客，安全第一。

作者: 二舅 时间: 2009-7-16 13:15:17

原帖由 pAtrick 于 2009-7-16 12:07 发表
上图……

你的名字+balance具体数字，全部的资料就都走光了。

作者: pAtrick 时间: 2009-7-16 13:17:29

很明显是假的嘛……

我又不是这里生的official name怎么会是patrick

娱乐一下

作者: 二舅 时间: 2009-7-16 13:22:15

原帖由 pAtrick 于 2009-7-16 12:17 发表
很明显是假的嘛……

我又不是这里生的official name怎么会是patrick

娱乐一下

先查李姓的，在输入你给的数，结果发现..........明显是假的。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

作者: 一秀 时间: 2009-7-16 16:01:13

今年我又没得退了

反交了不少。

作者: nziceice 时间: 2009-7-16 20:21:57

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作者: 无过 时间: 2009-7-16 21:31:25

原帖由 nziceice 于 2009-7-16 19:21 发表

最近人人都说我胖了!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

女生那叫丰满～～～

作者: Lease 时间: 2009-7-17 11:29:13

原帖由阿海于 2009-7-15 16:10 发表

恩是啊，但可能会存钱买戒指先呢

我也没想到IRD退钱那么快，周日才做好的，昨天就到账上了。

生意成本只有3千多，基本上我这生意没什么成本的，还没把收入算进去呢。

Congratulations to LZ.

Just my curiosity, if your business expenses are only more than $3k, how can you get $3,400 tax refund? Assume it's personal tax refund and you're at highest personal tax rate(38%), your refund should be 38% x business loss($3k)=$1k(approx).

作者: 阿海 时间: 2009-7-17 12:09:02

It depends on what type of business you are running.

Certain businesses have their advantages than others.

Generally "home based" businesses shares your living space for business activities, so you can claim some personal expenses as part of business expense.

NZ has a favourable tax systems that encourage ordinary people to start their own business, hence allowing these tax advantages.

However, all businesses must demonstrate the attempt to build, progress and make money. You just can't just have a hollow business and claim tax benefits.

For all that are interested in tax returns using a business vehicle, I suggest you play by the book, and genuinely start a proper business.

Type of businesses:
1) start your own - can be costly, and high chance of failure, not suitable for the light hearted
2) franchise business - good income stream, less chance of failure, but costly to start one
3) network marketing - very low cost, and is suitable for a lot of people, patience and determination is required

Read rich dad poor dad series to get to know these 3.

作者: Lease 时间: 2009-7-17 12:51:30

原帖由阿海于 2009-7-17 11:09 发表
It depends on what type of business you are running.

Certain businesses have their advantages than others.

Generally "home based" businesses shares your living space for business activities, so ...

Thank you for all the stuff. So I think your expenses in tax return may be more than $10K rather than only $3k. You just randomly wrote a figure in this forum.

Be careful on what you said re running a genuine business as you need to prove your genuineness when IRD come to question.

作者: 阿海 时间: 2009-7-17 13:08:56

yes, my "expenses" are more than $10,000, and of course I can justify that with IRD when the time comes, other wise my accountant would not have filed it.

Have I spent $10,000 on the business alone? No, and I'm not going into the details here.

"Be careful on what you said re running a genuine business as you need to prove your genuineness when IRD come to question."

That's why I said :"play by the book, and genuinely start a proper business."

Stop being cynical on my post thanks very much

作者: Lease 时间: 2009-7-17 18:01:53

原帖由阿海于 2009-7-17 12:08 发表
Have I spent $10,000 on the business alone? No.
" e* s- O0 O- [' g% @% x5 x9 u
That's why I said :"play by the book,".

These are the key words. You must spend $10k on business alone otherwise you can't claim, and you must not play the book.

You'll get IRD investigation.

作者: 阿海 时间: 2009-7-17 18:09:36

Sometimes people just want to get in other people's way, that's life isn't it.

[ 本帖最后由阿海于 2009-7-17 17:11 编辑 ]

作者: Lease 时间: 2009-7-17 18:17:16

原帖由阿海于 2009-7-17 17:09 发表

Sometimes people just want to get in other people's way, that's life isn't it.

Haha, you're interesting person. I just make a joke.

But be careful on what you said in such public forum. You never know.............

Some your said words are certainly disliked by IRD. This nation is running financially deficit and IRD may desperately chase revenue on any possible sources.

作者: hitye 时间: 2009-7-17 18:37:02

哈哈。。。无间道

作者: 阿海 时间: 2009-7-17 19:15:04

原帖由 Lease 于 2009-7-17 17:17 发表

Haha, you're interesting person. I just make a joke.

But be careful on what you said in such public forum. You never know.............

Some your said words are certainly disliked by IRD. Thi ...

hey thanks for reminding me mate.

I personally don't have high regard for IRD, possibly because of all the brain washing from all the Robert Kiyosaki books, and from Donald Trump too.

I treat my business as business and I do everything possible to conform to the law. I have responsibilities to my family and I wil not jepatice my reputation.

However, this country is not china, hence I prefer to be honest, and yes I do dislike governments in general, because they are basically useless in dealing with the free world economy, health care, education, and my personal wellbeing.

I think I have talked too much.

For those who is interested in your future, your retirement, whether the government is going to look after you, please reed The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump. What happens in US also applies to NZ.

Peace out.

作者: 零度冰 时间: 2009-7-17 19:19:04

有种东西叫做合理避税

或者自己开店或者投资房地产

作者: Lease 时间: 2009-7-17 22:16:34

原帖由 零度冰 于 2009-7-17 18:19 发表
有种东西叫做合理避税

It's an illegal practice as there is tax avoidence regime in NZ tax law.

作者: newmjlp 时间: 2009-7-17 23:12:29

看了几位激烈的讨论，我觉的说的都有道理。生意起步时都会有些难处，退些税回来如果能在财政上帮到lz的生活，那我为你高兴。真心希望你能坚持下去做好你的genuine business，为国家多创造利税。我想你做生意并非就想合理的避那么点税吧：）以为我觉的真正的成功生意是双赢。另外我同意另位高人的见解，合理避税和逃税是有本质区别的。这是一种选择，不取决于你的商业能力，而在于你做人的原则。会计与审计也有舞弊的时候，毕竟你是他们的客户。安达信就是这么做臭然后灭亡的：）。

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