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作者: 宽版 时间: 2014-9-19 16:51:22 标题: 揭开工黨和綠黨伪善的真面目

https://www.facebook.com/trevor.mallard1/posts/621974061248514
https://www.facebook.com/hollywalker82/posts/10152802834857259

作者: 宽版 时间: 2014-9-19 16:53:49

如果可以这樣公开耍賴,保守党只要仿效,进入国会易如反掌！

作者: 萨米 时间: 2014-9-19 16:58:34

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/ ... 3Ap%3Dfacebook-like

作者: 宽版 时间: 2014-9-19 17:03:07

In 2001 a staffer in Green MP Sue Kedgley's office responded to a request for support for a campaign to ban dihydrogen monoxide by saying she would be "absolutely supportive of the campaign to ban this toxic substance" if she had enough time, which she did not.

作者: pyzy001 时间: 2014-9-19 17:06:01

你怎么解释Epsom和Ohariu

作者: 宽版 时间: 2014-9-19 17:09:29

海侖大姐开过先例.
只是这一次赤裸裸了。

作者: 微苦蓝山 时间: 2014-9-19 17:15:01

呵呵，這個和你意見相左了
按照最純粹的選舉道德來說，epsom的模式就是不對的，一個黨號召自己的支持者去投別的黨派，無論如何都是有道德瑕疵的
既然如此，就不能指責別的黨派反操作，或者依樣畫葫蘆
如果說這是MMP的副產品，大家都可以利用，那大家就只能用一個標準
JK已經號召自己的選民在Harawira的選區支持工黨候選人Kelvin Davies，因為他是在不喜歡KDC，你無法指責其他黨派也操作
保守黨在Napier也可以這麼做，甚至在ECBAY，如果外長願意的話，也可以。
大家要不都高尚，要不都猥瑣，50步如何笑百步？

作者: 宽版 时间: 2014-9-19 17:26:14

本帖最后由宽版于 2014-9-19 16:29 编辑

1.Mallard有本事不上list，就别怕被趕出国会.
2.康立夫和Genter就别大言不慚地指责别人反民主
3.新西蘭选舉从没見過候選人说别投票给我,这個先例开了,这场选舉就热鬧了.

作者: 微苦蓝山 时间: 2014-9-19 17:42:00

宽版发表于 2014-9-19 16:26
1.Mallard有本事不上list，就别怕被趕出国会.
2.康立夫和Genter就别大言不慚地指责别人反民主
3.新西蘭选 ...

其實Goldsmith上屆就說了

作者: 微苦蓝山 时间: 2014-9-19 17:47:13

宽版发表于 2014-9-19 16:26
1.Mallard有本事不上list，就别怕被趕出国会.
2.康立夫和Genter就别大言不慚地指责别人反民主
3.新西蘭选 ...

National's Epsom candidate wants votes for ACT
Friday 29 Aug 2014 6:35 a.m.
By Sarah Robson

There's something a bit weird about a politician telling people to vote for the other guy.
But each time National's Paul Goldsmith takes the stage at a candidates debate in Auckland's Epsom electorate, that's effectively what he's doing.
At one such event in Remuera last week, the moderator stopped Mr Goldsmith to question him on it.
"You say people are free to vote for you in the electorate?"
"Course," Mr Goldsmith replied.
"But you would rather that they didn't?"
"Well, yeah."
As has happened in previous elections, National is encouraging its supporters in Epsom to give their electorate vote to the ACT Party candidate, David Seymour.
That leaves Mr Goldsmith with the task of campaigning for the party vote.
Epsom is one of two seats - the other being Ohariu - where National has done deals with its support parties, ACT and United Future.
Announcing the electorate accommodations last month, Prime Minister John Key said: "We've constructively worked with United Future and ACT, we'd like to keep on doing that in the future.
"We're very comfortable if National voters want to vote tactically there from an electorate perspective."
As Mr Seymour put it at the candidates' debate in Remuera, Epsom voters could end up with two MPs cheerleading their interests in government.
"If you're Minister (Gerry) Brownlee or Minister (Hekia) Parata or Minister (Chris) Finlayson and you're dealing with an Epsom issue, actually you're getting double tackled by two MPs."
But other candidates object to Epsom voters being told what to do.
Their message is simple: don't listen.
Labour's Michael Wood says the people of Epsom have been "moved around like pawns on a chessboard to prop up the ACT Party".
"We say to you, you should do what John Key would do, which is to vote for the person that he believes is best," Mr Wood told voters.
"He said he supports Mr Goldsmith, I say you should support the person you believe is best."
Christine Rankin, who is standing for the Conservatives, says polling shows ACT is almost dead - and will only bring in one MP on its best day - while her party is on its way up.
"You want stable centre-right government, but a lot of you are angry about being told what to do and who to vote for. You want stability, but you want choice and that's exactly what you get with me," she said.
Mana candidate Pat O'Dea says the biggest issue facing Epsom is a lack of democracy.
"I urge you people to vote with your conscience and not as you are directed," he said.
After his controversial cup of tea with Mr Key, John Banks held on to Epsom for ACT at the 2011 election.
However, his 2200 vote majority was a far cry from fellow ACT candidate Rodney Hide's majority of close to 13,000 in 2008.
A Q+A Colmar Brunton poll earlier this month found 44 per cent of Epsom voters were backing Mr Goldsmith, with 32 per cent intending to vote for Mr Seymour.

Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/nationals-epsom-candidate-wants-votes-for-act-2014082906#ixzz3DjY8j4VU

作者: 宽版 时间: 2014-9-19 17:53:42

本帖最后由宽版于 2014-9-19 16:59 编辑

Trevor Mallard wrote yesterday:

Key has confirmed Hutt South is close race. I’m lucky that Holly Walker has said she only wants party vote. I’m asking green supporters to vote tactically and support me to stop National winning electorate.

Today Holly Walker responded:

To the lovely voters of Hutt South. Thanks for supporting me these three years. I’m stepping down for now, so even though my name’s on the ballot, I don’t want your candidate vote. It could be close, so make sure a vote for me doesn’t get in the way of your preferred local MP.
哈哈哈哈, 下一次就直接说明得了, 咖啡都免了。
从海侖起, 两大党一直都羞羞答答, 这次一脱到底,够干脆.

作者: offking 时间: 2014-9-20 01:16:57

宽版发表于 2014-9-19 16:53
Trevor Mallard wrote yesterday:

Key has confirmed Hutt South is close race. I’m lucky that Holly ...

Trevor Mallard

是HUTT SOUTH的MP吗？工党好像把他的排名拉低了很多

他属于和DAVID CUNLIFFE的反对派

作者: 就爱聊 时间: 2014-9-20 01:53:14

哈哈，忽然莫名其妙地提出要复活moa的那人！

作者: 宽版 时间: 2014-9-20 09:25:05

offking 发表于 2014-9-20 00:16
Trevor Mallard

是HUTT SOUTH的MP吗？工党好像把他的排名拉低了很多

他不在list名單上.

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