请问各路高人：什么是cross lease

mensa

前天看房，说是cross lease，不知什么意思，请教

NewLynnHse

http://www.consumerbuild.org.nz/publish/legal/legal-other-pimsland.php

What is a cross lease?

A cross lease is where a number of people share in the ownership of a piece of land (as tenants in common which means they can sell, or pass on their share in their will). The homes that they build on the land are actually leased from the other land-owners. The houses are usually flats or townhouses. For example, if you purchase a flat in a three flat development that is a cross lease, you will become the registered proprietor of:

An undivided one third share in the land and buildings (as tenant in common in equal shares) with the other owners of the other two flats, and
A long term lease, from all three of the tenants in common (including you), for your particular flat.

Disadvantages of cross leases

The problem with this type of ownership is:

The rights of the owner depend on the terms of the particular lease, which has usually been arranged by a developer who built the development but now has no further interest in it.


The usual term of a cross lease is 999 years, whereas the physical or economic life of the house will be a lot shorter.


You must comply with the covenants [define] set out in the lease - if you fail to comply, the other flat owners may be able to compel you to sell your undivided share in the fee simple [define] title.


You will usually need to get the unanimous support of all the owners of the cross leased homes to make any kind of decisions for example, decisions concerning common spaces such as driveways or car parking areas. If agreement can’t be reached it might involve a lengthy arbitration.


When homes are altered, unless the cross lease and building plans are changed, the original cross lease will not include the alterations without additional surveying and legal costs. Furthermore, you will need to get the agreement of the other lease-holders before you can do the work.


Most cross lease owners believe that their title is as good as an ordinary freehold title without understanding all the implications.

mensa

多谢赐教。如果只是在自己院子里种东西，crosslease共有人能不能干涉呢

NewLynnHse

mensa 发表于 2012-10-13 15:16
多谢赐教。如果只是在自己院子里种东西，crosslease共有人能不能干涉呢

种东西应该是没问题

无过

NewLynnHse 发表于 2012-10-13 17:48
种东西应该是没问题

人家可以不同意的.....

NewLynnHse

无过 发表于 2012-10-13 18:11
人家可以不同意的.....

真的啊？

无过

NewLynnHse 发表于 2012-10-13 19:12
真的啊？

当然了...因为地是share的，如果人家觉得有影响当然可以不同意...
如果只是正常的花园什么的，人家没有理由拒绝，但是如果是种菜什么的..人家可以说影响视觉等等..这样你就麻烦了

John.G

NewLynnHse 发表于 2012-10-13 19:12
真的啊？

那是吃饱了撑的，在自家院子里种东西管人家P事啊，养宠物可能有限制也要看邻居好不好说话

John.G

无过 发表于 2012-10-13 19:15
当然了...因为地是share的，如果人家觉得有影响当然可以不同意...
如果只是正常的花园什么的，人家没有理 ...

这种没有界限的不好，俺家也是cross lease不过有自己的fence围起来 想干嘛都行

无过

John.G 发表于 2012-10-13 19:17
这种没有界限的不好，俺家也是cross lease不过有自己的fence围起来 想干嘛都行

其实有围栏也没用...如果对现有的地做了改动或者用途做了改动..在理论上都是需要得到邻居的同意的....

John.G

无过 发表于 2012-10-13 19:21
其实有围栏也没用...如果对现有的地做了改动或者用途做了改动..在理论上都是需要得到邻居的同意的....

那地本来就是拿来种花草，种菜的嘛，又不能再在上面盖房子啥的

无过

John.G 发表于 2012-10-13 19:41
那地本来就是拿来种花草，种菜的嘛，又不能再在上面盖房子啥的

种花草没问题啊...但那时如果改种菜就难说了

陌生的香港人

樓上各位 crosslease 裡面的條約都是民事協議 每塊地每個crosslease都不一樣 沒有固定的可以和不可以

先看看地契上covenants 說什麼吧

困困猪

完了，我们盖了个大deck，没跟邻居说！不过他们养狗的，也不和我们商量呀。华人邻居，貌似好说话点。

NewLynnHse

困困猪 发表于 2012-10-15 08:33
完了，我们盖了个大deck，没跟邻居说！不过他们养狗的，也不和我们商量呀。华人邻居，貌似好说话点。

哈哈。。。养只狗也要和邻居商量啊？猫呢？

田心草茵

其实CROSSLEASE的房也没问题啊，只要你不是在那块地上加盖或改建，种植物都无问题的，而且CROSSLEASE的房相对还便宜些

Danger_Decibels

get freehold....

John.G

困困猪 发表于 2012-10-15 09:33
完了，我们盖了个大deck，没跟邻居说！不过他们养狗的，也不和我们商量呀。华人邻居，貌似好说话点。

只要不影响到邻居 我觉得没啥问题啊。。。。 邻居不经你同意又不能私自进入你的院子。。

陌生的香港人

John.G 发表于 2012-10-15 16:52
只要不影响到邻居 我觉得没啥问题啊。。。。 邻居不经你同意又不能私自进入你的院子。。

如果鄰居發現這個deck 違反covenant 的要求 理論上可以告樓上上法庭的

化腐朽为绵掌

NewLynnHse 发表于 2012-10-13 18:12
真的啊？

真的 除非你种菜 也给邻居送点 哈哈哈

化腐朽为绵掌

所以 总结下 买这种房 事先问下邻居情况 别搞个印度阿三 烦都烦死你！