Auckland - City of sluts

ysun062

I was listening to new talk ZB this morning, and the host was talking about there is going to be a new massage club opening opposite the skytower. Two chinese brothers from Wellington bought the 3 storage building for 3.3 million and decided to build a world class massage club where both men and women are welcomed !

I am totally against the idea, skytower is a tourist destination, this will give extremely poor image to our country !

what are your view on this ?

瑞木

就算开在自家门口，只要是合法的，你就没有办法，能做的只有抗议，但抗议的结果最后十之八九会和19楼说的一样。

coldplay

只要能刺激经济，提供就业的行当，政府都会批

ysun062

抵制？甭搞笑。只要是利润回报好的机会我都非常支持。传统？那有什么实际意义吗？实在点！
Anonymous 发表于 2010-9-28 13:30

Ok, lets say that the new massage club will be opened next to your house, will you be supportive of the idea ??

Anonymous

抵制？甭搞笑。只要是利润回报好的机会我都非常支持。传统？那有什么实际意义吗？实在点！

jojoo

路过～～～～～～～

lynettez

LZ可以看看council website 有没有给submission

渡边麻友

阿斯顿和考核的快速的将卡机读卡的健身卡登记卡三角的

darkwolf

忘了上次closeup讲有间massage开在学校对面，有家长反对，但人家合法经营，后来也没什么消息了。
在这里只要你合法的经营，也没什么，可能也有像楼主的这样人会反对，这也是你的权利。

sunray

吃喝嫖赌一条龙哦

zizy

是给中国旅行团服务的吗，出来旅游好多都是想开荤的吧

yunfeng

MASSAGE CLUB=按摩院=妓院  吗？

光芒

温饱思淫欲·············

中国水

不开在sky对面，还可以把机叫到hotel里呢，和地点有关系吗？

victordd

Well... What do you think of having a big gambling place not around not opposite but right inside the Auckland's main tourist attraction? But it's there and it's legal. So is the massage club. So if you think having a casino is ok then probably the massage club is ok to be there too.

Dracoz

陌生的香港人 and ysun062 , very well done with both your English!

瑞木

说句不好听的，真正丢人的是去里面工作的中国女人。

怕丢中国的脸，那中国老板请洋妞不就得了？

陌生的香港人

5# ysun062

there is not much we can do,, the auckland city council should really stop this from happening at the first place,, not every location is suitable for massage club.


LZ, NZ is not like China, the local government here is sometimes quite toothless as to what it could do and everything it does must be within what the law allows...

Commercial Sex Premise is declared as legal by the central government in Wellington under the Prostitution Reform Act 2003, so city council cannot simply shut down a bothel just because it does not look good or people dont like it - Instead, Auckland City Council had tried to amend its Bylaw to better regulate the location of sex premises to make them further away from schools, park, residental area, etc.

However, the sex industry took Council to Court so the whole section of the Bylaw on commercial sex premises was declared INVALID in 2006.

http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/council/services/prostitution/default.asp


Another alternative means is thru District Plan. However, the focus of a District Plan is the "environmental effects" of a land use activity (traffic, noise, bulk, character, etc), it is hard to imagine what "significant" adverse environmental effects a bothel could have that may render to it being declined. As far as I can see, there is no provision in the current Auckland City's Central Area District Plan prohibiting sex premises in the CBD area/near the skycity. As such, legally speaking, it is free to open there...

You can say the lack of provision of bothel in the District Plan is an oversight by council. However, the defeat of council in the Bylaw case in 2006 demonstrates how much resistance it could be and the difficulty of banning this kind of thing.

But even if Council decides and fiinally manages to put a rule in its District Plan banning a sex premise in CBD on ground of adverse effects on amenity/character of the area - very likely, people could still apply for a resource consent and demonstrate the adverse effects of this bothel would be "no more than minor" on the environment.
In addition, the applicant could argue that the area surrounding Skycity is largely commercial (casino) anyway rather than purely residential so this type of activity, while not desirable, is not inconsistent with the predominant characters of the area... so consent may still need to be granted ~

Again, this is how democracy/rule of law is practised in New Zealand and the Western world...

ysun062

为发泄男性荷尔蒙提供正常渠道，去嫖妓总比养小三，包二奶，性犯罪等等好一点吧？起码是你情我愿的事。

身为男人嚷嚷着抵制“鸡”我总觉得有些矫情。毕竟这个现象的存在就是因为男人有需要。
瑞木 发表于 2010-9-24 14:38

I think you missed the point I am making. I am not saying that we should not have massage clubs, or whether is it right or wrong. I am saying that the LOCATION of the massage club needs to be controlled and managed.

the point i am making is that having a massage club right opposite Auckland's main tourist attraction and one of nz's main iconic structure is a very poor idea from a city planning perspective.

瑞木

为发泄男性荷尔蒙提供正常渠道，去嫖妓总比养小三，包二奶，性犯罪等等好一点吧？起码是你情我愿的事。

身为男人嚷嚷着抵制“鸡”我总觉得有些矫情。毕竟这个现象的存在就是因为男人有需要。

LeetheFIRST

很好啊。。。。。。。。。

ysun062

说实话，管我P事儿...只要NZ法律允许，这些算什么呢，我们又能怎样。
没辙了 发表于 2010-9-24 13:44

there is not much we can do,, the auckland city council should really stop this from happening at the first place,, not every location is suitable for massage club.

没辙了

说实话，管我P事儿...只要NZ法律允许，这些算什么呢，我们又能怎样。

ysun062

很多人以後想打砲就可以不用跑太遠了
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d_tsai 发表于 2010-9-24 11:50

Yes, the chinese invester and owner is very smart, perfect location.
Alot of Asian men will go to gamble - massge - then go back to hotel (or home)

d_tsai

很多人以後想打砲就可以不用跑太遠了
吃飯--賭場--洗三溫暖--打砲--回旅館
多輕鬆