◥██◣永久签证将改变-2009 移民法◥██◣

onlyme618

还是我昨天的疑问，如果Permanent resident visas 的含义是和IRRV一样的，那拿Permanent resident visas 的条件是什么，是和IRRV一样吗？显然LZ认为是不一样的！ 这里很多人（包括我自己）宁愿相信这只是换了名字的IRRV而已。 不过究竟是怎样，的确在移民局网站上找不到任何的解释。 所以没到那天，的却大家也就是靠猜而已。

transworks

To elaborate and also correct my previous comment, the proposed changes in the Immigration Act 2009 Amendment Act 2010 (Immigration Act 2009 Amendment Bill now in Parliament, through 1st reading, 2nd reading, In Committee, 3rd reading) stated the following:

s. 73 (a) Currency and nature of permanent resident visa states:
The holder of a permanent resident visa is entitled to travel to New Zealand at any time.

s. 74 (1)(a)(i) and s. 74 (2) Currency and nature of resident visa states:
The holder of a resident visa is entitled to travel to New Zealand only if the visa holder’s travel to New Zealand is consistent with the conditions of the visa relating to travel.

s. 49(1) and (2)(b) Visas may be subject to conditions states:
Every visa other than a permanent resident visa is subject to such conditions (if any) and the conditions of a visa relating to travel may give permission to travel to New Zealand for or within a specified time period.

s. 50(5)(b) Conditions on resident visas states:
To avoid doubt, nothing in this section allows the Minister to impose conditions on a permanent resident visa, whether at the time or subsequent to granting the visa.

s. 108 (1) Decisions on entry permission in relation to residence class visa holders states:
The holder of a permanent resident visa must be granted entry permission.

Schedule 5 Part 1/2 Visas corresponding to visas held under former Act by persons who are outside New Zealand / onshore states:
Resident permit and returning resident’s visa of indefinite duration holder under former Act is deemed to hold permanent resident visa under this Act.

The above provisions pretty much guarantees that the new permanent resident visa will still be valid indefinitely (for as long as this Act is in effect). They also prevent any conditions be imposed on the new permanent resident visa (i.e. to be present in the country for certain number of years within a specific timeframe).

However, the wording of schedule 5 (it is only a schedule) is somehow vague and does not completely rule out the possibilities that some conditions may be imposed when new permanent resident visas are re-issued to replace current IRRVs, although I personally think it is highly unlikely.

Note: I did not read through the whole Act, so misinterpretations and overlooks maybe possible. Criticisms are welcome.

duazalea

我觉得把永久回头签是好事,起码对于我们这样辛勤工作的人来说，那些拿了PR就回国或去别的国家的人，等老了再回NZ养老,那么多年他们也没给新西兰做什么贡献，到老了也跟我们这样拼搏劳作一辈子的人一样拿福利，那对我们太不公平了，这样改了真好，起码公平了

巧克力莓子

To elaborate and also correct my previous comment, the proposed changes in the Immigration Act 2009 Amendment Act 2010 (Immigration Act 2009 Amendment Bill now in Parliament, through 1st reading, 2nd  ...
transworks 发表于 2010-6-29 17:00

LZ，我英文不好，这段大概意思是不是说过去拿到IRRV的人也被视为PRV，而未来的PRV，本质上跟IRRV无不同，是么？

00001

LZ，我英文不好，这段大概意思是不是说过去拿到IRRV的人也被视为PRV，而未来的PRV，本质上跟IRRV无不同，是么？
巧克力莓子 发表于 2010-6-29 17:48

至少从字面上所反映出来的意思是这样的......

onlyme618

64# duazalea 别担心，现在KIWISAVER的的实施不就是为了这个问题吗。

transworks

LZ，我英文不好，这段大概意思是不是说过去拿到IRRV的人也被视为PRV，而未来的PRV，本质上跟IRRV无不同，是么？
巧克力莓子 发表于 2010-6-29 17:48

我不是LZ，但以我的英文水平我是这么理解的。但是也不排除这里可能有一个伏笔， 因为IRRV转成PRV的条款是以附录说明的形式出现，转换的程序并没有在正文里出现。但如果最终是有条件转换的话那么这部法律就有前后矛盾的嫌疑，所以个人认为可能不大。至于还没有拿到IRRV只是有RRV的人群前途就不太明朗了，这部分条款说得太有艺术了，怎么定都可以。这就是从法律条文变成可操作的政策执行之间的艺术了。

但总得来说这次修法律的主旨并不是针对现有的签证条件的，而是围绕新的移民法庭(Immigration and Protection Tribunal)的设立和运作展开。我看了国会关于着部新法的辩论记录，在签证问题上只有retirement visa有一些小的争议，其他都是围绕section 474展开的，都是权力斗争，跟签证没什么关系。至于RRV,IRRV之类的提都没提到。如果真要对IRRV动大手术应该是比较有争议性的，也应该会在辩论中出现。这部法律其实大部分是工党政府写的，由国家党政府来通过而已。除了绿党反对，几乎是全票通过，所以这部新法的通过和实施是肯定的事了。

L'occitane

What changes are there to the visa system?
The new Act establishes a universal visa system that provides for greater simplicity and flexibility in managing non-citizens’ travel to and stay in New Zealand.  The new Act also removes the distinctions between the categories of visa, permit and exemption and uses the single term ‘visa’.


这个不就是说以后系统变的简单了,取消了不同的名称而简单明了的统称 VISA 么

keane910

14# NECN8


要是公布了 那得有多大的影响啊  没公布  先听着
NZ不是澳洲  不是美国  它乱改  死的最快的就是它
那得多少人回国或是去其他地方啊  房市直接影响

LZ发帖是好意啊  虽然迟早会变  到不如不变  提高本国的经济才是吸引我们留下来的重要因数  而不是所谓了限制政策

巧克力莓子

我不是LZ，但以我的英文水平我是这么理解的。但是也不排除这里可能有一个伏笔， 因为IRRV转成PRV的条款是以附录说明的形式出现，转换的程序并没有在正文里出现。但如果最终是有条件转换的话那么这部法律就有前后 ...
transworks 发表于 2010-6-29 19:06

我明白了，谢谢你，
你很牛啊，是律师么？

longzi

大家 可要开始好好考虑这个 政策改变的问题了。

十字星空

“ 新的法律可能同意 通过WTR 拿到pr, 并且是年薪9万以上(人才类别)直接申请永久居留" N+ K1 _$ @( Y  S# u# u” 这是真的假的呀？我们才通过WTR拿到PR没几天，看到这个消息 心又碎了