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Lilac

双子座........................................我们真8卦

pumpup

原帖由 PatrickC 于 2006-10-19 22:28 发表


本人6月6号出生,今年是我的本命年。。。至于照片。。。

啊。。。还真回答了。。。

照片没关系。。。见过本人，所以无所谓~

呵呵。。。

猫咪大厦

原帖由 一切很美～ 于 2006-10-19 22:35 发表
生日很好....66大顺...

还是高考前一天,中国学生的受难日

韩咲

不过,不懂,如果后面是向Finance发展,前面的BE4年是不是有点浪费了呢.
因为基本上是完全结合不了两个不动学位的东西.

pumpup

原帖由 Lilac 于 2006-10-19 22:37 发表
双子座........................................我们真8卦

人的本性。。。

就是喜欢 3 8~~~~~~~!

还喜欢听 3 8~~~~~~~!

pumpup

原帖由 韩咲 于 2006-10-19 22:45 发表
不过,不懂,如果后面是向Finance发展,前面的BE4年是不是有点浪费了呢.
因为基本上是完全结合不了两个不动学位的东西.

software engineering。。。电脑嘛，还是有帮助的。。。

一切很美～

不过香港的高考是哪几天? 跟大陆一样的吗??

猫咪大厦

原帖由 一切很美～ 于 2006-10-19 22:51 发表
不过香港的高考是哪几天? 跟大陆一样的吗??

这个不知道，估计不大会一样，而且那里的考试应该不会像国内那么恐怖

pumpup

想起来。。。

当年的考试真得很可怕。。。

猫咪大厦

当年？你哪年考的啊？
我好象稀里糊涂地就过来了，考得也是不好不坏不痛不氧的……

fighter

I love walking in the rain
because no one knows I'm crying

PatrickC

原帖由 韩咲 于 2006-10-19 22:45 发表
不过,不懂,如果后面是向Finance发展,前面的BE4年是不是有点浪费了呢.
因为基本上是完全结合不了两个不动学位的东西.

Actually many people have asked me this. I will respond in English．

1)        I-Bank’s Investment Banking (Corporate Finance) Division (IBD) is extremely tight in even giving out interviews. They prefer to interview graduates with conjoint or dual degrees. Postgraduate qualification also helps. This is especially true to students without a super high GPA in BCom.

p.s. this is NOT necessary true for I-Bank’s Sales and Trading positions (both Equity and Fixed Income divisions), which is different to IBD. They focus more on personality and often require less impressive qualifications (and grades). Of course, they still expect you to have good grades and CVs, and still helps to be highly qualified when you apply as a IB Sales or Trader. Just that it will NOT be AS bad as IBD.

2)        I did a Software Engineering degree. In today’s business world, it is beneficial for anyone to have some IT and programming skills. A few of the investment banking analysts can actually program too (some, not all).  

3)        Having an Engineering degree means that
a.        You will be able to understand the dynamics and the fundamentals of an engineering business a lot easier than those who do not have a BE degree. As a banker, one day you may be advising an Engineering firm, and this is when your BE will add value to the team.
b.        You probably have greater logic, problem solving and analytical skills, which is as important as the actual text book knowledge u gain from uni.

p.s. the above 2 points (a & b) are what the interviewers/employers/recruiters think, whether they are actually true or not, I do not know.

[ 本帖最后由 PatrickC 于 2006-10-21 01:59 编辑 ]

pumpup

原帖由 PatrickC 于 2006-10-19 23:11 发表


Actually many people has asked me this. I will respond in English．

1)        I-Bank’s Investment Banking (Corporate Finance) Division (IBD) is extremely tight in even giving out interviews. They  ...

It's quite true that employers tend to go for the ones with double degrees

I had a friend who got into KPMG because of his conjoint degree, grades are important but not the sole factor they look at. They look to employ persons with more relevant skills.

I wonder if a finance major will provide more job opportunities in NZ? Is it popular in NZ business industry?

Lilac

恩....很有道理~

回答得也很有逻辑..........

pumpup

原帖由 猫咪大厦 于 2006-10-19 22:59 发表
当年？你哪年考的啊？
我好象稀里糊涂地就过来了，考得也是不好不坏不痛不氧的……

我没考。。。逃了，哈哈哈。。。

一般来说，在亚洲，高考都很恐怖吧。。。

我还是挺怀念以前的学校，50几个人一班，大家都认识，很好玩~

这边的太散了。。。

pumpup

原帖由 Lilac 于 2006-10-19 23:32 发表
恩....很有道理~

回答得也很有逻辑..........

对呀~ 对呀~

膜拜一下，呵呵。。。

fighter

泵泵以后要常来啊！！！！！！！！！！！！

零度冰

原帖由 pumpup 于 2006-10-19 23:28 发表

It's quite true that employers tend to go for the ones with double degrees

I had a friend who got into KPMG because of his conjoint degree, grades are important but not the sole factor they lo ...

finance major 在新西兰不缺。。。。。。还是去一些金融市场比较活跃的国家发展巴  类似于中国内地，香港，美国

[ 本帖最后由 零度冰 于 2006-10-19 23:55 编辑 ]

pumpup

原帖由 零度冰 于 2006-10-19 23:52 发表



finance major 在新西兰不缺。。。。。。还是去一些金融市场比较活跃的国家发展巴  类似于中国内地，香港，美国

啊啊。。。看来我好朋友真要回国了。。。

哭啊。。。

嗯嗯。。。 还有 新加坡~ 超级金融国家。。。

[ 本帖最后由 pumpup 于 2006-10-20 00:06 编辑 ]

pumpup

原帖由 fighter 于 2006-10-19 23:41 发表
泵泵以后要常来啊！！！！！！！！！！！！

嗯嗯。。。会来转转~

fighter

原帖由 pumpup 于 2006-10-20 00:00 发表

嗯嗯。。。会来转转~

恩擦好板凳等你。。
泵泵！！！！！！！！！:25::25::25::25:

pumpup

原帖由 fighter 于 2006-10-20 00:02 发表

恩擦好板凳等你。。
泵泵！！！！！！！！！:25::25::25::25:

好好好。。。

嘿嘿。。。fighter真好~

明天最后一天上课。。。好好玩一天~

PatrickC

原帖由 零度冰 于 2006-10-19 23:52 发表



finance major 在新西兰不缺。。。。。。还是去一些金融市场比较活跃的国家发展巴  类似于中国内地，香港，美国

I agree with 零度冰..

It is TOUGH to get a job in finance ANYWHERE in the world, because your job deals with people's REAL money.

It is VERY TOUGH to get a job in finance in NZ, because the market is SUPER SMALL. On average there are about 5 new Investment Banking Analysts hired each year, and may be 5 first year Sales and Traders hired each year too. This is for the entire New Zealand. All graduates compete for the same jobs, including students from Otago, Victoria, Waikato, AUT etc.

It is easier (on a relative term) to get a finance job in a booming market, like China and HK (right now).

However, finance is a VERY dynamic industry, and demand for human resources changes alot depending on the economy (share market performance). Whilst it might be easier to get a job in high finance in HK/China (now), it might also be easier to loose your job in finance in HK/China (later)when the market is doing poorly. I-Banks will fire none-performers when the market is low.

In contrast, if you get a job in high finance here, when the market is doing poorly, you will probably still get to keep your job.

p.s. Demand for accountants is alot more stable.

巧克力豆

oh  my god!!!都索强人哇...............

~RainySky~

谢谢PATRICK给的建议。。。

对于新生，非常的有帮助。。不管是从专业方面的还是工作方面的。。

再次鞠躬敬礼致谢～～！

fighter

原帖由 ~RainySky~ 于 2006-10-20 00:55 发表
谢谢PATRICK给的建议。。。

对于新生，非常的有帮助。。不管是从专业方面的还是工作方面的。。

再次鞠躬敬礼致谢～～！

恩啊！！！写的很好啊！！！！！！！

Lilac

哎..这就是为什么我好多同学读finance读到后来都觉得没用. finance好象真的只有学得比较好,学历高的才能找到真正相关的工作....

以前也认识一个人是读finance master的,后来找到BNZ做 analyst... 像investment banker这种工作的确是少之又少的人能进入... 其他finance相关的有是也有,但是真的比acctg少不知道多少.....所以还是不能放弃考CA的目标啊~~~!

Lilac

还劝各位,要想从事finance,还是要以master为目标.......

要想从事accountant,还是以注册会计为己任~~~~~

十面埋伏

原帖由 Lilac 于 2006-10-20 01:22 发表
还劝各位,要想从事finance,还是要以master为目标.......

要想从事accountant,还是以注册会计为己任~~~~~

经典!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
我最近也有这种觉悟......
PS:再加一句,要想从事economics,一定要读phD......
觉得这3个专业的关系是: acctg<finance<economics   (仅从知识的层次和广度上而言)

pumpup

原帖由 PatrickC 于 2006-10-20 00:15 发表



I agree with 零度冰..

It is TOUGH to get a job in finance ANYWHERE in the world, because your job deals with people's REAL money.

It is VERY TOUGH to get a job in finance in NZ, becau ...

Thanks~ that's clear...

I decided not to climb the corporate ladder ^^