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作者: 王路    时间: 2013-8-5 17:04:17     标题: 初级产业部(8月5号): 任何批号的一二段K粉都不能保证安全，请立即停止使用！

本帖最后由 王路 于 2013-8-6 07:36 编辑

Questions and answers about whey protein contamination          3:30pm, MONDAY 5 AUGUST
What has happened?Fonterra has informed MPI that three batches of whey protein concentrate manufactured at one of its plants in May 2012 have tested positive for the food poisoning bacterium Clostridium botulinum.
Fonterra says the contamination occurred when a product was re-processed using a disused production line which had not been cleaned appropriately.
Where did this affected whey protein product go?The whey protein concentrate, or products made using it, was exported to Australia, China, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand and Saudi Arabia. It was used as an ingredient in more than 870 tonnes of infant formula, juice/dairy beverage, yoghurt, body building powder and also in stock food. MPI is advising immediately when we know of any affected product.
What can Clostridium botulinum do?If eaten, this micro-organism can cause severe illness in children and adults, and can cause infant botulism in babies. It is not yet clear which strain of Clostridium botulinum is involved, but work is currently underway to clarify this.
How high are the levels of botulinum?It is too early to confirm the level of contamination and the specific strain we are dealing with.
What is MPI doing about the botulinum contamination?We are currently focussed on locating and verifying any products on the New Zealand market potentially containing the contaminated whey protein, and where appropriate, providing cautionary advice to consumers.
We are working with regulatory authorities in overseas markets to keep them informed about the situation.
We are also talking to consumers about what happened, why, and what can be done to ensure it doesn’t happen again.
So is there any food product in New Zealand stores that’s definitely affected?The Director General’s Statement of 4 August 2013 advises that MPI cannot rule out the following Nutricia Karicare products as being potentially contaminated and recommends they are not fed to children until further notice.
MPI now recommends parents and caregivers use alternative products until further notice.
At this time we are not aware of any yoghurt, body building powder or juice/dairy beverages on the New Zealand market being affected by any recalls.
So can we still buy or use Karicare products we have at home? You can use any Karicare products other than:
What are parents meant to feed their babies today?Until this process is completed, MPI advises parents and caregivers to look for alternative products to those named above.
But Nutricia has only recalled products with certain batch numbers?MPI advises that it cannot rule out either Nutricia Karicare Infant Formula Stage 1 for babies from birth or Nutricia Karicare Stage 2 Follow-on formula for children from six months old, as potentially contaminated, regardless of batch numbers.
Why the difference between Nutricia’s advice and MPI’s?MPI has not been able to fully trace through Nutricia’s supply chain which specific batches of its products may contain contaminated whey protein, and which don’t, and whether affected batches are in New Zealand stores.
It may be over the coming days, the company can provide this information which would allow MPI to be assured of the safety of these products. But at this point, it cannot.
What if I have purchased infant formula or follow-on formula that is the same as these products you name, but are not from the batch numbers Nutricia is recalling?We recommend you do not use any of the products named above.
Are infant formula brands other than Nutricia Karicare OK?At this time we are not aware of any other affected product on the market in New Zealand.
Is there some specific advice for parents who need to change their child’s formula brand or formulation?If it is necessary to change products, parents should give an infant smaller feeds to start with to allow the infant to adjust to the new formula.
Parents are advised to change to a formula for the same age range as they were using with Karicare.
A critical message is that those parents or caregivers with a child on infant formula should not swap to a follow-on formula if their baby is under six months old.

On Saturday 3 August, MPI told consumers that the Infant Formula Stage 1 product was OK to use. Now you have changed that? Why?The advice has been changed based on new information. This issue is developing quickly and we are keeping people updated as often and as accurately as we can. Keep an eye on this website.
Have any New Zealand kids got sick from consuming formula?We are not aware of any incidence of illness connected to this situation, but this is being investigated and we are monitoring the situation closely in conjunction with health authorities.
Is it just Fonterra products affected or all our dairy product brands?Only products containing Fonterra’s concentrated whey protein are affected.
So is it safe to eat New Zealand dairy products – for example milk and cheese?Yes, dairy products such as fresh milk, cheese, spreads and UHT milk products are not affected.
How do we know other whey protein powder from the contaminated plant is not contaminated?Fonterra have informed us the contaminated whey protein concentrate was manufactured on a disused line that wasn’t cleaned properly. Product manufactured in other parts of the plant has been tested and is clear. MPI is verifying the information provided by Fonterra.
Further InformationFor health concerns contact:
For queries about other aspects of this food safety issue, call MPI's consumer helpline: 0800 693 721
作者: 王路    时间: 2013-8-5 17:04:45

本帖最后由 王路 于 2013-8-6 07:30 编辑

UPDATE - Karicare formula - further precautionary advice          8.50pm, 4 AUGUST 2013
The Ministry for Primary Industries has further expanded its precautionary advice about Nutricia infant formula products.
Acting Director-General Scott Gallacher says the Ministry now recommends parents and caregivers avoid feeding two products from the Karicare range to their infants until freedom from contamination with the bacterium Clostridium botulinum can be confirmed.
"As of this evening, MPI has not been able to fully trace through Nutricia's supply chain which specific batches of its products may contain contaminated whey protein, and which don't, and whether affected batches are in New Zealand stores.
"It may be over the coming days, the company can provide this information which would allow me to be assured of the safety of these products.
"But in the meantime, I have decided to expand my precautionary advice and have issued another formal Director-General Statement under the Animal Products Act 1999 and the Food Act 1981," Mr Gallacher says.
In this statement, MPI now advises that it cannot rule out the following Nutricia Karicare products as potentially contaminated and recommends they are not fed to children until further notice.

MPI now recommends parents and caregivers use alternative products until further notice.
Please note, this evening's Director-General Statement supersedes earlier advice from MPI at 12.30pm today. Advice may change again, once further information is available.
"Until we get more certainty around those Karicare products outlined above, I am asking parents not to use them and use an alternative product in the meantime," Mr Gallacher said.
"MPI is working closely with industry and the Ministry of Health to ensure there are sufficient alternative infant formula products on the market, and we will be closely monitoring supply until this matter is resolved."
Further information on the wider issue Currently, there is no information to suggest any other infant formula products on the market in New Zealand are affected.
MPI and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade are working with regulatory authorities in the relevant international markets to provide them with new information in relation to this development as soon as possible.
Media contact: MPI media phone 029 894 0328.

Consumer support
Note: The Ministry of Health and the Ministry for Primary Industries support and encourage parents to breastfeed their infants until a year of age, and supplement their diet with appropriate solids from around 6 months of age. Infants under the age of one year who are not breastfed should be fed with an appropriate infant formula, and should not be fed with regular cow's milk.







http://www.mpi.govt.nz/news-reso ... care-infant-formula
作者: 包不同    时间: 2013-8-5 17:15:50

果断换了， 尤其是今天早上打电话给karicare他们报做任何承诺之后
作者: qqphone    时间: 2013-8-5 17:20:00

包不同 发表于 2013-8-5 17:15
果断换了， 尤其是今天早上打电话给karicare他们报做任何承诺之后

你换了什么奶粉呀？
作者: VIP88    时间: 2013-8-5 17:21:14

晕，喝奶粉的龙宝宝们这次中招了，在nz的还有的别的选择吗？
作者: David.DS    时间: 2013-8-5 17:22:31

看到超市里就KARICARE 普通1跟金装2 下架了，其他的还在卖.
作者: 土豆我是地瓜    时间: 2013-8-5 17:25:17

这么说的话那喝进肚的咋办？？？
作者: 包不同    时间: 2013-8-5 17:27:46

qqphone 发表于 2013-8-5 17:20
你换了什么奶粉呀？

heinz 2段的， 希望没事
作者: beach0872    时间: 2013-8-5 17:33:47

家长群的，听到NEW TALK ZB的新闻了吗http//arntrnassets.mediaspanonline.com/radio/n00/929426/SheenaBurton-5August2013.mp3  要是错过了，务必看看今晚TV1 的6点钟的新闻.然后选择什么品牌的奶粉.
作者: belle1119    时间: 2013-8-5 17:49:01

无语了，换什么奶粉啊{:8_391:}
作者: susan2011    时间: 2013-8-5 18:04:48

本帖最后由 susan2011 于 2013-8-5 18:05 编辑

我刚去karicare官网看了啊，好像没有通知所有其他批次有问题噢，还是昨天发布的那几个batch

5th August 2013, 12:45pm (NZT), 10:45am (AEST)


PRECAUTIONARY PRODUCT RECALL – NEW ZEALAND ONLY

KARICARE INFANT FORMULA STAGE 1 (0-6 months) and
KARICARE GOLD+ FOLLOW ON FORMULA STAGE 2 (6-12 months)

** LIMITED BATCHES IN NEW ZEALAND ONLY **

A Message from Nutricia Managing Director, Corine Tap

FONTERRA INGREDIENT CONTAMINATION PROMPTS RECALL

On the evening of Friday 2nd August, Fonterra informed Nutricia that one of their ingredients had a potential quality issue.  Nutricia received a further update from Fonterra at 8.15pm (NZ time) on Saturday 3rd August. This new information indicated that some of the ingredients supplied to Nutricia may also have been contaminated.

For this reason, Nutricia has instigated a precautionary recall in New Zealand.

The safety of our consumers is our primary concern. Nutricia’s quality and food safety management system includes rigorous testing procedures of our finished products. None of the products tested and sold in New Zealand indicate any contamination. However, given the new information supplied by Fonterra, we have taken the decision to make a precautionary recall on specific products.

The products being recalled are:

- Karicare Infant Formula Stage 1 (0–6 months) in NEW ZEALAND ONLY with batch numbers 3169 and 3170 (use by 17 06 2016 and 18 06 2016). The batch number and use by date can be found on the base of the tin.

- Karicare Gold+ Follow On Formula Stage 2 (6–12 months) in NEW ZEALAND ONLY with batch number D3183 (use by 31 12 2014).  The batch number and use by date can be found on the base of the tin.

Consumers should not feed products with these batch numbers to infants.

If you have been using these products to feed your infant and your child shows any sign of illness, please contact your health care professional as a precautionary measure.

This recall ONLY affects batch numbers 3169 and 3170 of Karicare Infant Formula Stage 1 (0–6 months), sold in New Zealand, and batch number D3183 of Karicare Gold+ Follow On Formula Stage 2 (6–12 months), sold in New Zealand.

The recall DOES NOT include other Karicare products.

This recall DOES NOT affect any Nutricia products sold in Australia.

If you have recently purchased any products with the batch numbers detailed above, please return them to the place of purchase for a full refund.

Further information can be obtained from the Customer Careline on: 0800 258 268.

Nutricia apologises for any inconvenience or stress caused by this, but the safety of our consumers is our paramount concern.

We are doing everything we can to resolve this issue and provide as much information and support as possible.
作者: 王路    时间: 2013-8-5 21:06:36

susan2011 发表于 2013-8-5 18:04
我刚去karicare官网看了啊，好像没有通知所有其他批次有问题噢，还是昨天发布的那几个batch

5th August  ...

今晚的CAMPBELL LIVE里面，恒天然的人已经承认无法确认产品的安全性了。http://www.3news.co.nz/Fonterra- ... 307683/Default.aspx

John建议避免任何系列的K粉
作者: dew_615    时间: 2013-8-5 21:37:02

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作者: susan2011    时间: 2013-8-5 22:20:38

王路 发表于 2013-8-5 21:06
今晚的CAMPBELL LIVE里面，恒天然的人已经承认无法确认产品的安全性了。http://www.3news.co.nz/Fonterra ...

。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
作者: 冲冲虫虫    时间: 2013-8-5 23:02:15

本帖最后由 冲冲虫虫 于 2013-8-5 23:10 编辑

安拉安拉，吃过的没事就没事了，基本到现在也没什么出事的！
看好了别吃有问题的，别担心了！
作者: 新人    时间: 2013-8-5 23:38:32

apatamil到底算不算karicare呢
作者: 寂寞的沙丘    时间: 2013-8-6 00:07:02

并不是所有的，好像有指定批号的才可以退货
作者: 天广的爷    时间: 2013-8-6 04:57:20

土豆我是地瓜 发表于 2013-8-5 17:25
这么说的话那喝进肚的咋办？？？

一个氺管就污染到了肉毒杆菌，请问：上海成千上万头死猪肉得有多少肉毒杆菌在上海人喝的自来水中，谁去化验、谁敢去化验。仔细想想？童鞋们不觉的此事奇巧吗？若知真相，请听下回分解！
作者: 天广的爷    时间: 2013-8-6 05:02:17

VIP88 发表于 2013-8-5 17:21
晕，喝奶粉的龙宝宝们这次中招了，在nz的还有的别的选择吗？

土豆我是地瓜 发表于 2013-8-5 17:25
这么说的话那喝进肚的咋办？？？

一个氺管就污染到了肉毒杆菌，请问：上海成千上万头死猪肉得有多少肉毒杆菌在上海人喝的自来水中，谁去化验、谁敢去化验。仔细想想？童鞋们不觉的此事奇巧吗？若知真相，请听下回分解！
作者: 天广的爷    时间: 2013-8-6 05:03:03

土豆我是地瓜 发表于 2013-8-5 17:25
这么说的话那喝进肚的咋办？？？

一个氺管就污染到了肉毒杆菌，请问：上海成千上万头死猪肉得有多少肉毒杆菌在上海人喝的自来水中，谁去化验、谁敢去化验。仔细想想？童鞋们不觉的此事奇巧吗？若知真相，请听下回分解！
作者: 峰峰的忆    时间: 2013-8-6 05:03:54

特意很用心的看了新闻，并没有说所以的都不能喝，只是说如果和批次上的要去看医生，观察十天，有需要还应该去看专科。新西兰的奶粉都不能喝的话真不知道该喝什么了。
作者: 天广的爷    时间: 2013-8-6 05:04:19

dew_615 发表于 2013-8-5 21:37
三段也不能喝了吗？？头疼，换牌子儿子不喝啊！！鲜奶试了也不喝，愁死了！

土豆我是地瓜 发表于 2013-8-5 17:25
这么说的话那喝进肚的咋办？？？

一个氺管就污染到了肉毒杆菌，请问：上海成千上万头死猪肉得有多少肉毒杆菌在上海人喝的自来水中，谁去化验、谁敢去化验。仔细想想？童鞋们不觉的此事奇巧吗？有猫腻吗?若知真相，请听下回分解！
作者: 王路    时间: 2013-8-6 07:23:40

本帖最后由 王路 于 2013-8-6 07:25 编辑
峰峰的忆 发表于 2013-8-6 05:03
特意很用心的看了新闻，并没有说所以的都不能喝，只是说如果和批次上的要去看医生，观察十天，有需要还应该 ...

说的是任何批号的K粉现在都不能喝。因为不能确认被污染的只有那三个批号的产品。所以MPI目前的建议是不关什么批号，都不要喝。等确认以后再说。8月5号下午新发布的问答，依然是这么建议的。你有更新的消息的话，发个链接啊。大家也都等着看什么时候可以安心喝了呢。

http://www.mpi.govt.nz/food/food-safety/whey-protein-contamination/q-and-a-about-whey-protein-contamination
作者: 王路    时间: 2013-8-6 07:26:12

寂寞的沙丘 发表于 2013-8-6 00:07
并不是所有的，好像有指定批号的才可以退货

今晚我去看看，回来跟大家汇报结果。
作者: 王路    时间: 2013-8-6 07:29:06

本帖最后由 王路 于 2013-8-6 07:38 编辑
新人 发表于 2013-8-5 23:38
apatamil到底算不算karicare呢

一开始公布的消息说是没受形象。但是现在禁令范围越来越大，也心里没底了。目前没有谁明确说Apatamil肯定是有问题的，但我自己是不会在这个时候凑热闹的。等过了风头，大家都确认肯定没事儿了再喝也不迟，反正这东西又不是很快就坏的。

8月5号MPI的最新消息是只有K粉一二段的所有批号受形象。没说Apatamil有问题。而且说除了那两款K粉以外，可以使用其它的产品。这个看个人判断了。
作者: 王路    时间: 2013-8-6 07:48:13

冲冲虫虫 发表于 2013-8-5 23:02
安拉安拉，吃过的没事就没事了，基本到现在也没什么出事的！
看好了别吃有问题的，别担心了！

目前为止还没有任何一例出问题的。不过还是要小心，不希望看到这个论坛上的孩子先出问题。缓过风头，大家都确认什么安全了再说不迟。



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