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作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-9-24 00:51:15 标题: 我个人的求职经历-激励大家一下

本帖最后由 sophia92 于 2013-10-26 21:04 编辑

Ipad打的字，错别字比较多.大家别介意啊.
声明：我不知道这贴为什么突然一下就红了，在此i声明一下我没有想offend任何人，也不是要炫耀。纯属我一个小学同学问我怎么在新西兰找工作的，我才想到把这心酸史写出来激励激励大家。我同学周五还和我开玩笑，说我们这帮人从初中开始打工上学找工作，人人都可以出本书了。还有我的经历不代表大部分人，比我好的有很多，不如我的当然也存在。大家当流水帐看看就完了，希望你能从中受到启发那是最好，你要是觉得浪费你的时间那我也没办法。最后在这里祝福大家都找一个好工作。

我估计大家都处于才找到工作，正在找，和想要找的阶段中。发个我自己的求职经历给大家激励激励。

总结一下,我去了大大小小9个面试(最后一轮,这种第一轮或者电话的不算),平均每30份CV发出去一个回应(只是属于第一轮的,电话类的),做过无数个网上测试,听过无数个电话,历经一年多,从去年四月份到今年的四月份.....

怎么讲呢，我上的大学也算不错，读的也是工程系，所以工作应该没有想象中的难找，但是也是一波三折，不是那么平稳的。(补充一下我高中时打工经验丰富,从13岁起,送过报纸,打过果汁,盛过冰淇淋,买过男装.最高纪录上5天课,打4天的工,一个星期7天...就是大学也没闲着,参加表演,组织活动,也当过制片人,更重要的出去玩了很多次. 从高中算起,去滑雪两次,去了悉尼,黄金海岸,皇后镇各一次,更别提大大小小的去rotorua, coromandel,海边,公园之类的.我妈说我的日子太风流了...) 我个人觉得这种不务正业的经验也是很重要的.

首先我读的是优化工程，冷门课，怎么讲呢就是四不像的课，什么都学一点但什么都又不懂，没啥钻研的。主要学的就是数学，统计，电脑编程。然后学工程他有个要求，要你实习一定要满800个小时。这么说吧，我这人懒，本来就跳了一年，4年的课三年要读完，所以放假的时候压根儿没想过要实习(因为还是要读summer school 2门课)，所以才会有后面的那么多风波。所以同学们，趁早做打算。
所以晃悠晃悠两年了，到了第三年我急了，开始找工作了，但是晚了。大部分的大公司，包括现在的EY都是去年才过完Xmas人家就招人了，所以我只好申请工程类的公司。申请了大概有10个还是20来个的Graduate program 然后好不容易接到了面试。

其中不计其数的网上测试，电话Interview都不算，最后就去了3家的最后面试。恒天然Fonterra,大的工程公司Beca底下的子公司Derceto，还有搞飞机内部结构的Altitude。

每家看上去都挺有希望的，结果是一家没成。Fonterra 嫌弃我不搞化学，altitude 嫌弃我不搞力学还有材料，最后Derceto兴高采烈的打了个电话给我说我被录取了。还发了一封email！！！结果1个月不到，他们告诉我上层决定，公司裁员，不招新人。所以我和另外一个男生就这么的被骗了。(同学们,千万不要去Derceto,那就是个坑)

然后我特别郁闷，因为本以为那个工作已是囊中之物，哪知道会节外生枝,所以我压根儿别的新的工作都没申请了。说实话我挺喜欢那家公司的，如果有差不多的给我我还是会选他，除非特别好的。说好的工资5万，市场价。

结果人家又不要我了之后我就开始急了，因为大部分的都截止了，不能申请了。所以我就把眼光放到找实习上面去了。然后好死不死给我找了一个实习的工作，在家搞水的Civil Engineering 小小的Firm当实习工，时薪16一小时。苦逼啊。

然后在实习的三个月中，我是入了魔的找工作，每天估计申请5个。有连连续续接到了好几个面试，其中值得一提的就是一家电力公司(Mighty River Power)，给5万5，然后我是最后candidate两人的其中之一，而我觉得我机会还挺大的，所以当时另外一家很小，很不咋地的公司要我，我就没去。那家给4万出头，相差1万。结果MRP也还是没要我.

所以我拒绝了之后，我妈骂我是白眼狼。结果就导致了我实习结束在家待业6周 (准确来说只有4周,因为在第四周我被EY录取了.我希望过完我的21岁生日再上班,所以拖了两周)。但是我还算幸运的，这六周没闲着，也有估摸着也有3，4个面试，其中就包括EY。然后面试结束第二天，EY就告诉我被录取了。全天的面试来着，真叫过五关斩六将。

但是我申请的是明年的毕业生，不是今年的，所以在那失业的四周内,我还是要找今年的工作。结果峰回路转的事情发生了，两周之后有人通知我我可以去上班了。我就顺带的随口问了问能不能让我提前，压根儿没报啥希望。所以就是现在这份工作了！

顺带要提的小插曲是因为我接受了EY,我才拒绝了两个Interview，之后才发现我的好姐妹几个月之后也去其中一家应聘，然后拿到了职位，那个职位比我的薪水高三分之一！！！是在保险公司当分析员，单位出钱去考精算师。我那个郁闷啊。。。(我是自费读CFA.....)

话说我当年请教了不少人，发了不少email，也改了无数次的简历，要系有人有兴趣，我可以发出来给大家看看。我会把邮件节选给发上来的.

CV:

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Cover Letter:

Dear Sir / Madam,

I have just recently finished my Engineering degree at the University of Auckland. I
specialise in Engineering Science, which is heavily based on statistical and numerical
analysis, mathematical modelling and operations research. Throughout my degree, I have
developed analytical and critical thinking, problem solving and project management skills.
My strong communication skills were developed during my part-time sales assistant job and
other extra-curricular roles such as executive producer for Engineering Revue.

I have enclosed my CV to support my application. It shows that I will bring important skills to
the position, including:
• Strong communication and interpersonal skills
• Excellent project management and organisational skills
• Statistical analysis and mathematical modelling for operations research
• Advanced user of various maths and stats packages (R, SAS, Excel VBA, Matlab)
• Additional computational literacy and database design (VBA, C, Java, Python,
Matlab, PostgresSQL)

I am currently working as a research intern student with AWT water based in Auckland.
The project is about leakage detection of a water distribution network using time-series flow
data. The role primarily involves building a statistical model to forecast water demand and
therefore monitor and detect any anomaly in the water network. Through this internship
opportunity, I’ve gained knowledge about statistical process control, time-series forecasting
methods and SQL database and queries handling. I have strong desire to learn and I am
a fast learner as I had no prior knowledge of water network management and hydraulic
models. I have also worked on other projects such as lung modelling, staff scheduling
and network optimisation within the field of operations research. I believe the fundamental
knowledge of mathematical modelling and optimisation will help me quickly pick up any
given profession.

My biggest achievement in project management would be taking on the executive producer
role for Engineering Revue. Engineering Revue is a stage performance show produced by
a group of engineering students every year. My responsibilities mainly involves managing
the executive team members, locking in sponsors and liaising with the Maidment theatre and
Engineering School, contacting 80 volunteering Engineering student actors and dancers and
organising practice sessions, and most importantly making sure the show runs smoothly and
successfully.

I would very much enjoy having the opportunity to talk with you further to discuss the
requirements and expectations of the position.

Thank you for considering my application. I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely,
Sophia Wang

朋友的回信:

Hi Sophia,

I recently received a message from ** asking for some interview advice. Sorry for the late reply, unfortunately I don't check my LinkedIn all too often.
hopefully you haven't had your interview yet, but I know the big four move very fast in their recruitment process even before applications close.
I can give you some tips but bear in mind, i'm just a recent grad. it's not like i've ever interviewed anyone, any tips are just my opinion/ what I did to prepare for interviews etc etc lol

So a little about myself; I'm a former engsci (class of 2010, but finishing off my conjoint in 2011), now a commercial pricing analyst at IAG. The roles of a pricing analysts can be quite broad and the jobs extremely different depending on the different industries. In an insurance company such as IAG, pricing is within the domain of actuaries, which I am assuming is quite different to the work of a pricing analyst in say the airline industry, or in financial markets. The same can be said about most roles such as 'consultants' or 'analysts';

Because of this, before your interview, do as much research as you can on what the role actually is, in the case of big companies, there are probably multiple roles even for the same position title you applied for. I am assuming you applied to a consulting role in EY advisory? I believe advisory consulting in EY also includes teams that do IT consulting and supply chains, which I am assuming is not what you're after. Often I have found interviewers pretty much put you on the spot and ask you, which area of our business are you interested in? Dont mumble around and say you're happy with whatever you get, or maybe this role, maybe the other role, oh or maybe that role, because that just shows you don't know anything about the position you've applied to.

An analogy would be like people thinking engineering is only about civil engineering. it is not. and similarly, the banking/finance sector has a huge diversity of roles.

It can be a bit difficult sometimes to get information on all the different roles within a job you've applied for, and this is why it's very important to go to all the presentations and career fair things that employers come out to. Make sure you go to these and get pamphlets/talk to people and not just eat the free food. If you happen to get the same person you talked to at a presentation in the interview and they remember you, this is a good thing.

In terms of the formal interview:
not sure what kind of advice you are after in terms of interviews, and you probably already know all this, but here's to reiterate.
make sure you have answers prepared beforehand, especially for the 'behavioral' questions time.
often everyone always asks some generic questions at the start
tell me about yourself
why this company?
you did engineering, why banking/finance? (An important question for you as this is where you can differentiate yourself from everyone else. have an answer ready)
where are you in 5/10 years? biggest weakness? what can you bring to this company?I haven't been to an EY interview, but in a lot of other interviews, I've found myself to be the only engineering student when i've applied to these kinds of roles (although big 4 often hire heaps of engineers so maybe not) so try to have some good answers on how your engineering degree is applicable in case this comes up. My 4th year project was a finance related one so it was easy to link it, but otherwise, there is all the modelling, analytics, maths, proficiency in software / advanced excel (make sure you know how to use vlookup, and pivot tables, the staple of working life excel usage).

The next part will probably be behavioral questions, things like:
disagreement with a co-worker. how did you handle it? a time of leadership? challenge faced? how overcome? time you have had to get consensus among people time you have optimised something?
These MUST be answered with a 'story', which means it is quite difficult if you have not prepared some stories to utilize beforehand.
This doesnt mean you need a solid story for every single possible scenario, they ask you. but a handful of stories can be applicable to a broad range of questions.

lastly, 'do you have any questions?' the answer is yes. ask a couple of questions, because nothing is as awkward as 'nope' then 10 seconds of silence. Usually take note of things you can ask as the interview progresses. eg if i get asked where will you be in 5 years time, at question time i will ask back, since you asked me earlier, what about with EY, where can i see myself in 5 years time? if they didnt ask though, it might come off a bit staged and prepared so use your judgement. lastly, a tip that has been passed down to me since before my interviewing days, if you're fully stuck and questionless go with 'I did have a few questions prepared but it seems you've answered them all already'

Presentation time:
I think there will probably be some sort of group activity / presentation activity. This differs year to year / and from different companies. may be similar to uni MCC style, or have nothing to do with anything (i.e crash landed in a desert, what should you do? activities). sorry no tips here. do your best. I've never known what interviewers want here.

so anyway, well done on getting the interview. The fact that you got an interview means your grades, experiences and qualifications are definitely good enough so don't loose confidence on these.
Nevertheless, the harsh reality is that competition is fierce (fiercest in the big4), and you may have to apply to a LOT of companies before you land the job you want. (or maybe times have changed since during my global recession time applications? i feel like back then even a simple retail job was hard enough to get).
if this doesnt work out for you keep in mind all the other engineer applicable banking/finance roles that will be coming up very shortly such as the big banks (anz etc), then the analyst roles in large companies (Faisal -trading analyst, me - pricing analyst etc). then there are also graduate positions open at arbitrary times of the year at the big 4, especially for minor ones such as financial/risk analysts, so you have to really keep an eye out for those. Actual 'finance finance' companies you have probably already missed, places like goldman sach, maquarrie nzfirst capital etc close applications pretty much before uni semester even starts. If interested, IAG NZ also has a graduate programme, but this opens rather late into the year (the australian ones are open though), in which case i can probably give you better tips than generic ones and a referral.

All the best,
**.

第二封回信:

Hi Sophia,

I'm glad you found my email helpful. Since you have a few more questions, I'll separate out into a Q&A style list.

I have finished all my papers already, and I've just completed 400 hrs with a water civil engineering company called AWT. So what I really need is a full time job now and getting another 400 hrs before I can gradaute. Therefore getting an graduate program for next year is not really my priority atm.

I would suggest though that you might want to rethink your priority, to focusing for next year than the current 400h experience pending. if you think about it, you went to uni to get a good job afterwards. you didn't go to uni merely so that you could experience 400 hours of manual engineering did you? thus your priority should be your future.

Employers that are hiring for next year are understanding of this anyway. after all everyone they're interviewing haven't even finished their courses yet and they give them the rest of the year to finish it.

regarding your work experience (you require another 400hours), I am assuming you need another in the general category, in which case these insurance / professional sector or any office jobs aren't going to be accredited anyway.

If you are hard pressed for your 400h though, may I suggest volunteer working? that is doing paid work for free, not like volunteer organization work. hopefully you can afford to do this, but it's only 2.3 months of full time, which you could supplement with part time paid work on top if you had to.
i'm not saying working for free is ideal, but I had to do this too, and so did a lot of my friends. I worked at a automechanic for my general, just doing what the mechanics told me to do like replacing radiators etc. its always an option if you need it. you will most likely have better luck with small companies for general work than any large company.

I guess I am more interested to ask you about the insuance sector and job as an analyst with IAG. I have another two interviews coming up, one with Southern Cross and the other with Vero Insurance, the jobs I've appiled for are a junoir analyst role and a graduate acturary analyst position.

So this i can help you with since it is specific to what I do. do you have particular questions? or do you just want a general outline of the insurance sector?

For your Southern Cross interview, it is important to know which division you've applied to, Southern Cross health insurance, or Southern Cross travel insurance (lol of course you know) but they are different, health is a non profit organisation, while travel is a profitable organisation.
for specifics of the company, I can get my analyst friend at Southern Cross health to talk to you. An 'analyst' role is very broad. they will range from IT analysts, business analysts, actuarial analysts or anything really... (my friend is an insights analysts, so he does analysis work on customer insights or something i donno). important to know which one you're applying for.

the graduate actuary analyst position would be vero's equivalent of what I am currently doing at IAG. Once again actuarial analyst position can be broad. there are many different kinds of actuaries, which are not limited to insurance. in general insurance however, there are usually two:

Valuation Actuaries
Reserves are important to the long-term financial health of a company. Because
insurance companies are dealing with events that are uncertain in time and amount,
they must put aside what they consider to be the most likely amount of money they
will need to pay future claims and expenses, and then put aside a little more, just
Section 1.1 Professional Options 3
in case. The role of valuation actuaries is to determine the appropriate "just a Little
more" and validate the expected number of claims, which should be what was
taken into account when setting the price of the insurance. Valuation actuaries
also certify the reserves to government agencies.

Pricing Actuaries
Pricing actuaries are responsible for determining how much money a company is
likely to make on a product. A product can be life insurance, which
pays an agreed-upon sum to your beneficiary when you die, an annuity,
which pays an agreed-upon sum every month as long as you live, or some form
of health insurance, which covers the costs of medical care not paid for by
a government plan, for example, dental and drug expenses. Pricing actuaries
use the same assumptions as valuation actuaries when calculating the price
of insurance to guarantee consistency and ensure that when valuation actuaries
believe that they are adding a little extra to the reserves, they are really doing
so. Pricing actuaries generally do not certify anything to anyone outside of the
company.

source: Fred E. Szabo, Actuaries' Survival Guide. other types are consulting, pension, and financial actuaries.

I am working in the pricing side, the vero role I suspect might be more towards valuation.
In order to become an actuary (qualified actuary) is a grueling process of around 7 or so years. You are required to pass 16 exams, some of which are 6 hour exams. 2 of which are 9 hour exams, and the pass rate for some of these exams is 30% so most students are guaranteed to fail a few exams. You can actually get a good idea of the type of work an actuary will be involved in by looking through these exam syllabuses . I have yet to sit any exams, but I will be taking my first one in September. Once qualified though you are part of a very small group of people as there are few qualified in the world (our company only has 3)

all this information though probably isnt very helpful for any interview processes, but it's good to have in the back of your mind in case they actually ask, or you are deciding this is the kind of career path you are wanting to.

comany values:
big4 i dont think have any company 'values' but for companies such as southern cross vero and IAG, they may be pretty important, so try to look them up beforehand (the IAG values are real, integrity, achieving, togetherness). I do have a friend in vero who isnt an analyst but I can still ask her for any tips if you like.

I would love to know what sort of things an anayst within the insurance sector will be dealing with, and what do you think of the important qualities the employers are looking for. Do you have any recomemdations on the sort of background research/reading? And how relevant do you think our Engsci knowledge can linked to such analyst roles?
analysts do a very broad range of things, and I think I would find it a bit difficult to explain what my role is. I can tell you what I do day to day, but as a generalisation it's difficult. some of the things I do, categorised:

reporting: these are numerical reports that i produce once a month, that are updated snapshots of how the business is doing in different areas (there are lots of different reports for different people/ business units). I think this will be a very common activity for most actuarial roles
ad hoc reporting: a business request for analysis / reporting on a specific matter. eg a manager wants to know what the loss ratio (this is insurance jargon) of a certain portfolio at this time is. I can collate the data and find out this kind of information.
project work: this of course varies a lot. i am currently in the middle of a couple of projects. when i started working, i did mostly reporting and ad hocs, but now that I am a bit more useful and trained up, this is where most of my time goes. currently i am working on maybe 3 or so projects, 1. building a vehicle claims model (actual pricing work!), + 2 others i help out with.

Overseas such as in Australia, there are specific bachelor of actuarial studies that students study to get jobs as actuarial analysts, however in new zealand there are none, so instead companies go for statistics / maths students. What they should be going after though i think is engineering students, especially those that do operations research, as it is more or less a very related field. engsci build models and so do actuarial analysts. This and the fact that you can pick up programming is very important. my role can actually be very coding heavy as the primary software we use for analysis is SAS, which is code based. SAS will definately be used for vero and southern cross (depending on what kind of 'analyst' you are) and all the big banks use it too. thats not to say you have to be programming all the time, some in my team dont use much coding either. you dont need to know any SAS either, they will train you up (i didnt know when i started either).

The part where I am not confident about myself is I am lacking the commercial background that the other candidates might have. So how did you overcome that problem and shown the employer you are more capable than people who are from a business and commercial background? Personally I think you are incredible to get a job with IAG as we don't have a business degree.

Once again let me reiterate the fact that if you got an interview it means your grades, experiences and qualifications are definitely good enough. if they didnt think your qualifications were appropriate, they would not have offered you an interview in the first place. so dont question that.
secondly, having an engineering degree is quite a benefit, especially as analyst roles. i dont think insurance companies for actuarial analyst roles would actually hire anyone with a business degree, they go for the maths and stats degrees (4 months ago, i actually had to solve an ode!), but since engineering is maths, and engsci especially is maths and stats (op res) plus the benefit of programming, it fits pretty well.

in some interviews where it seemed the interviewers hadnt interviewed many engineers before i sometimes mentioned how most of my engineering friends have all opted to work not as engineers but rather in business/consulting/analysts (which is true) as they are very tech proficient and good at analytics.

anyway, i will follow through on my southern cross friend and ask him to talk to you if you like.

regards,
**

另外的仁兄的节选:

A business analyst can mean various things. As I'm sure you might have googled it, it can be very specific, or a range of broad segments you help out in. There are some business analysts that are specific to projects whilst others are there to maintain/improve the performance of the department.

I personally feel that an Engineering degree would be helpful to an all rounded BA role. Having an Engineering degree shows that you can think in a methodical and logical manner and often businesses will need that skill set.

Actuary and Risk analysts are a bit different. They are more specific to modelling and will likely be heavy excel / sas based roles. A BA could touch on it, but usually it wouldn't unless specified so.

关于电力公司:

Hi Sophia,

How are you? Congrats on finishing all your papers. How does it feel to be free and ready for the world Lol?

It's great that you emailed. In fact you'll be taking over my job as I am leaving Mighty River Power to do a PhD. The job is really great Analyst job for working in Energy Markets. As an Engsci you are more than qualified to do the job. You have SQL skills, VBA skills and the most important of all good foundation in Maths and Stats.

The only question from me that I would ask you is do know much about the electricity market in New Zealand? Because as a Trading Analyst your primary job will be to carry out quantitative and qualitative analysis on New Zealand's Electricity Market to help Engineers, Traders, Hydro Controllers and Operations Managers with Proposals and Decision Making. So having a basic background understanding of the market before you go into the interview would help you get the job. The rest you'll learn on the job and MRP is very accommodating towards learning so they'll send you to all sorts of workshops and courses where you learn more about the electricity markets. Finance stuff isn't hard to pick up. It's basic maths, which us Engscis are confident in.

Some of the daily work I do involves forecasting our future demand, calculating business interruption costs whenever a generation unit is taken out of service, developing and maintaining excel tools for Traders and Hydro Controllers for their daily job. These are really exciting work at most time but sometimes it can be a bit tedious as you can feel like you are just crunching numbers. And you'll have some responsibilities which will be lots of mindless number crunching but they are just your monthly or quarterly forecasting or reporting which happens at once a month.

However there's great potential for you take initiative and get involved in some of the long term projects or work on some of your own ideas. I was involved in River Optimization (an area in now I am going to be doing my PhD on) where I was helping to develop LP and MIP Models that would efficiently generate electricity across all our stations in the Waikato River. I also worked on another project looking at using Dynamic Program and Differential Evolution Algorithm to develop Offers for the electricity market. It was really exciting work and I got to use skills I learned in OR at Encsci.

Working at MRP is fantastic the people are great and really friendly. There's lots of perks like you get extra 5 days of annual leave called My Days and there's quarterly meetings where everyone gets together and we have a day of fun activities and team building. You'll also get to do some travelling around the Waikato and visit the Generation Sites and attend workshops and courses paid by the company.

I would recommend that you go for it and apply. Especially if you are looking towards a career in being an Energy Analyst. You'll be a really strong candidate if you can show that you have a basic understanding of how New Zealands Electricity Market works and if you can show off all your Excel, SQL and Math Modelling skills you learned at Engsci.

Good luck

P.S.

Here are some sites which will be useful to get you introduced to the electricity sector:

www.mightyriver.co.nz
www.em6live.co.nz (realtime state of NZ's electricity Market)
www.systemoperator.co.nz (they are the one who manages the market on daily basis)
www.transpower.co.nz (manages NZ's transmission grid)
www.ea.govt.nz (regulating body of the market)
http://www.med.govt.nz/sectors-industries/energy/electricity (ministry of economic development, looks at the long term view of the market)

Regards

**

On 01/25/13 2:11 AM, Sophia Wang wrote:
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Hi **,

I hope you enjoy your current job as an analyst with Mighty River Power.

I have recently finished all my papers (finally :P) and I am looking for a job now. I've been working for AWT Water limited for the last 3 months on leakage detection with processing time series data and SQL database.

I wish to apply for the Mighty River Power analyst roles but I am not sure what type of jobs it is involved and whether I can do them or not. I feel that most analyst job they would require some business knowledge so I fell disavantaged because we are engineers. Would it be possible for you to share you experience with me?

It would be great if you can get back to me.

Cheers,

Sophia

关于保险:

Hi Sophia,

Sorry for the late reply, I have been really busy with the move back up to Auckland and starting my new job.

My role at ACC was at a junior level. I started off as a graduate. Note however that they have just recently gone through a restructure (as I was leaving) so I am not too sure what sort of work the new actuarial analyst they are looking for will be doing. If I am not mistaken, they are interested in hearing from people of all levels.

The work I did generally relates to general insurance, not a lot on health insurance. I did a variety of work which I really liked - such as updating processes on a monthly basis based on economic changes, doing lots of statistical/cost and benefit/actuarial analysis and occasionally developing some models. Having a commercial background is useful for the exams and understanding some parts of the work we do but its not really required. Most people in the team don't have commerce background.

ACC is a crown entity (no fault accident compensation scheme) so it operates differently to other insurers in NZ. So I am not too sure if reading up on insurance policies would be relevant. However they may help your understanding about general insurance claims.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you have more questions.

Regards,

**

关于Southern Cross:

As a non-profit organisation, Southern Cross is very much focused on doing right by our members, both in terms of how we underwrite our policies as well as ensuring their general health and well being. You'll find that out marketing and promotions focus on promoting healthy living as opposed to our products/services and this reflects our non profit status.

The overall vision of the company is "to increase the health and well being of our members and New Zealanders as a whole."
We have four main ideas we focus on within the company to achieve our vision:
Bigger, Better, Brighter and Always
Bigger, better and always is quite self explanatory.
Brighter means that what we do should outshine our competitors with a focus on providing greater service and empathy at all levels of interaction with our members. All money that is made goes straight back into paying claims and reducing premiums and allows us to focus on what is important: improving the health of our members so yet don't need to claim in the first place!

As far as the role is concerned, as an analyst, you'll likely be focused on identifying pitfalls in your given department through the observation of trends and from there, utilise reporting and dash oars techniques to present it. Whilst I can't specifically confirm what your role will entail, it will most likely involve identifying data sources throughout the business and mining that data to produce meaningful information to justify solutions and/or patterns you'll observe.

Insurance as an industry is quite tricky to explain. You know Southern Cross is a NPO already so we operate with a focus on our members. It's quite a big thing at our company and we're VERY proud of our not for profit standing.

As far as models, this will vary from project to project that you'll likely work on. Unfortunately your department will undoubtedly use different model if techniques to what I use in the customer experience department but I would focus on trying to give examples which highlights your attention to detail, creative ways of sourcing and utilising data and effective ways to convert and present that data into useful information. If you have any examples from any Uni projects or previous work experience that will help.

Try to be prepared for the interview by having examples ready for the questions they are likely to ask. It sounds like you've had a lot of interviews so I'm guessing you'll know what to expect from the generic questions they'll be asking. Make sure to emphasise that you're a team player and am not afraid to approach others when required. Proactivity is hugely sought after as well and if you can convey that in your interview, it'll stand you in good stead.

That's all I can think of for now, but if there's anything you'd like me to go into more detail on, feel free to ask!

Good luck Sophia!

Regards,
**

作者: loyjvy 时间: 2013-9-24 13:55:17

羡慕！！！！！！！！！这么厉害！！！！！！！简历能瞧瞧么？谢谢！！我这个毕业两年都还在当初的小公司呆着呆腻了也想走了。。。

作者: 悬空飞星 时间: 2013-9-24 14:19:13

很多时候还是要看运气的，，，，不过你已经很幸运了

作者: aoxinyu 时间: 2013-9-24 15:36:15

呵呵，祝贺了！

作者: 博大精深 时间: 2013-9-24 23:01:57

我也是 Engineering Science 的。。今年大四

看来我还没毕业就已经失业了。。

我也已经cv投了十几家公司，被面试了5家。 Derceto今年也面试过。。

Beca, Fonterra进去要两年graduate programme。。太久了受不了就没申请，现在有点小后悔

我还申请了Orion Health, 也被拒了

言而总之engsci就是个坑。。

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-9-25 23:52:26

本帖最后由 sophia92 于 2013-9-26 00:53 编辑

博大精深发表于 2013-9-24 23:01
我也是 Engineering Science 的。。今年大四

看来我还没毕业就已经失业了。。

EngSci是属于与一定要早作打算的,我估计纯Engineering的工作是不会找咱们的,一定要找一些范围比较广的,更靠近data analytics类的工作. 我找工作的时候是把所有的可能有一点靠边的公司全申请了一个遍,不管新西兰还是澳洲的.还有graduate program相对来说机会比较大的,向我们这种冷门的科目,又没有工作经验的,seeks上的工作基本是没希望的. (这是我的肺腑之言,在很多石沉大海了之后得到的教训,这就是为什么我平均30封CV才有一个电话)
我建议你真要找工作,先找你想去哪一家公司工作,然后直接当面谈或者给HR发邮件,然后时不时的看他们公司的网站,查看有新的职位列出来没有.我列了几下公司,都是我申请过的,我还列出了他们一般的截止(开放?我记不得了)日期,就当参考吧.
Banks:
ANZ 28th Feb
ASB
BNZ
Westpac late Feb
HSBC (Australia)
Commonwealth Bank (Australia)

Consulting:
Ernst&Young 18th Feb
PWC 18th Feb
Deloitte 25th Feb
KPMG 18th Feb
Bain
Staples Rodway 18th Feb

Insurance:
IAG
AMP Feb
Vero
Sourthern Cross
ACC

Engineering
NZTA
Beca
Opus
MWH
Transpower
Fisher&Pickal Appliances/Healthcare
Mighty River Power
Power Co
Meridian
Contact Energy
Trust Power
Altitude
Tokin Talyor
Vector
WaterCare
AWT (我的summer就在他家)

Other:
Air NZ
Qatar Airways (that is in the middle east, I was pretty desperate.)
Worley Parsons
ABB Australia
Fonterra
PKF Ross Melville
THIESS
Gentrack
URS
Datamine
Accordo

还要时不时的看看grad connction和linkedin.能帮助到的就这么多了,下面就看个人努力了.

作者: blur.x 时间: 2013-9-30 16:52:17

膜拜。。。

作者: xcmir 时间: 2013-9-30 19:46:59

我觉得重要的是：大学期间，成绩ok就行了GPA是6.5和8差距真的很小，业余时间多做一些课外活动，多参加一些club，提高自己的social和management skills. 假期有机会的话在这边做个实习，没机会的话做个summer research,在没机会回国找关系弄个实习都比天天在家闲着好。很多国内来的优秀学生，只注重成绩，却忽略了更重要的一些东西。

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-9-30 21:23:09

xcmir 发表于 2013-9-30 20:46
我觉得重要的是：大学期间，成绩ok就行了GPA是6.5和8差距真的很小，业余时间多做一些课外活动，多参加一些c ...

这讲的很对啊，我说我的GPA不到6大家不要打我啊。我大学的成绩一塌糊涂，不敢拿出手啊。找工作纯粹看你的CV怎么写了，成绩只做参考的。。。。

作者: xcmir 时间: 2013-9-30 21:33:35

sophia92 发表于 2013-9-30 22:23
这讲的很对啊，我说我的GPA不到6大家不要打我啊。我大学的成绩一塌糊涂，不敢拿出手啊。找工作纯粹看你的 ...

但是说实话啊，engsci拿高GPA的没几个，都是得有点天赋才行的。我个人认为,如果engsci可以拿6,你用同样时间学bcom,拿8是没啥问题的。

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-9-30 21:45:08

xcmir 发表于 2013-9-30 22:33
但是说实话啊，engsci拿高GPA的没几个，都是得有点天赋才行的。我个人认为,如果engsci可以拿6,你用同样时 ...

难道你也是学Engsci的？因为我是AP才让我觉得很失败，读不了PHD才去找的工作，和我一起的另外五个男孩子，一个MIT，一个Stanford，俩Melbourne,还有一个上周去日本读quantum physics.你说这让我情何以堪。我的好朋友们这成绩都是8左右的。。。。这成绩反映薪水，我的薪水普遍要少5千。

作者: xcmir 时间: 2013-9-30 22:12:19

sophia92 发表于 2013-9-30 22:45
难道你也是学Engsci的？因为我是AP才让我觉得很失败，读不了PHD才去找的工作，和我一起的另外五个男孩子， ...

我觉得啊，第一份工作薪水都不是最重要的。重要的是能学到有用的东西，以后好往上爬。像EY这种公司，能给你提供一个很好的平台，在大多数学商科人眼里，已经是很不错的了。

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-9-30 22:27:43

本帖最后由 sophia92 于 2013-10-2 13:18 编辑

xcmir 发表于 2013-9-30 23:12
我觉得啊，第一份工作薪水都不是最重要的。重要的是能学到有用的东西，以后好往上爬。像EY这种公司，能给 ...

嗯，还是要继续努力啊。EY还是有很多人很多事值得我学习的。虽然工作了以后风波不少，但是也长了很多见识。怎么说呢，我觉得别的工作经历的一年可能还没有我短短4个月经历的多。但是工作好心酸，外表看的光鲜亮丽，但是事实上如何不自己经历是不知道的。这也是一种人生吧。

作者: Shutong 时间: 2013-10-1 10:19:57

我也是学工程的，不过是机电一体化工程。还有一年毕业，看完帖子后对就业形势深深的担忧啊

作者: 雨夜不带了刀 时间: 2013-10-1 11:23:44

厉害的lz。。。。

作者: xcmir 时间: 2013-10-1 12:42:54

Shutong 发表于 2013-10-1 11:19
我也是学工程的，不过是机电一体化工程。还有一年毕业，看完帖子后对就业形势深深的担忧啊

我认识的mechtron的都去orion health, fisher paykel appliance和healthcare, 或者一些大大小小的软件开发公司.只要你技术过关,其实工作机会还是挺多的。

作者: winne-52 时间: 2013-10-7 12:09:47

真的很激励我呀我也要加油啦我才递交了不到20份简历还以为就天大地大呢你的帖子给我正能量谢谢

作者: 笑谈古今事 时间: 2013-10-12 10:56:10

作者: 胡椒GG 时间: 2013-10-21 21:11:42

呵呵。楼主的cover letter和career NZ上的模版好像。。

作者: 风舞劲竹 时间: 2013-10-22 13:29:18

上高中学chinese....

作者: friendhappy 时间: 2013-10-22 14:04:40

Thanks for sharing!

作者: lucky888 时间: 2013-10-22 14:32:56

收藏下！

作者: 我的失败与伟大 时间: 2013-10-22 15:03:54

强帖，CV都放出来了。。。。。。。恭喜

作者: JJ-Creative 时间: 2013-10-22 16:14:43

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作者: auhome 时间: 2013-10-22 16:59:47

祝贺楼主~~

作者: charlie2e 时间: 2013-10-22 17:07:55

楼主很强力呀我面试了两次EY都失败了你可真牛啊。。膜拜一下吸点喜气

作者: otaorochi 时间: 2013-10-22 17:34:13

正在愁怎么从打工过度到正式的工作，很受用啊～～

作者: seashell0314 时间: 2013-10-22 17:42:28

恭喜恭喜，这年头工作都很不好找。

作者: hanpingli 时间: 2013-10-22 18:46:28

正能量满格，赞!

作者: monsterja 时间: 2013-10-22 18:52:37

谢谢啊，我忒羡慕你了，我想找工作就是找不到

作者: AUGUSTUS 时间: 2013-10-22 19:11:56

這只是個起點，加油，繼續努力。

作者: blindee 时间: 2013-10-22 19:46:00

CV写得模式不怎么样。。。

作者: Jep 时间: 2013-10-22 19:57:53

好长...mark一下回家继续看..~

作者: ucksil 时间: 2013-10-22 20:02:24

感谢感谢～！！

作者: VS风影我爱罗 时间: 2013-10-22 20:12:13

能在列举一些面试问题吗

作者: markfu 时间: 2013-10-22 21:23:03

不多说绝对的好帖子，，，，，顶！！！

作者: plasticbeach 时间: 2013-10-22 21:57:59

在本地读高中还是有优势的

作者: wingzero 时间: 2013-10-22 22:17:58

对于这种白富美赤裸裸的炫耀。。。

本屌丝本苦逼，唉，内牛满面。。。

作者: LeetheFIRST 时间: 2013-10-22 22:18:52

恭喜LZ找到好工作. 看来自己还得加把劲啊, 到现在都还没能找到大公司Internship, 唯一有着落的只是学校的Summer scholarship, 惨不忍睹悲痛欲绝......

作者: ceci-bi 时间: 2013-10-22 22:43:13

哈哈，认识一下本有可能的同事，当时刚安排好面试时间，就听说被EY抢走了。

都在一个楼里办公，不知道会不会遇见呢，呵呵。

作者: woohu 时间: 2013-10-23 08:32:23

真厉害, 我当时投了500封，也就不到5个面试

作者: wenkaifan 时间: 2013-10-23 10:44:30

sophia92 发表于 2013-9-30 22:45
难道你也是学Engsci的？因为我是AP才让我觉得很失败，读不了PHD才去找的工作，和我一起的另外五个男孩子， ...

想问一下你去ey是做什么。还有你朋友去的是什么公司啊？哪个薪水高三分之一的。还有ey不补助professional development 吗？不可能的吧，考cfa还需要自己出钱，你考的是ca 还是 cpa 还是acca啊？

作者: G_ZONE 时间: 2013-10-23 10:47:14

我想知道工资多少

作者: zcsstar 时间: 2013-10-23 10:47:57

作者: wenkaifan 时间: 2013-10-23 11:41:29

同问工资多少

作者: mytv123 时间: 2013-10-23 12:25:27

竟然是熟人。。确实。楼主真的是很厉害的人的。。。

作者: 非典型土人 时间: 2013-10-23 14:54:01

厉害，毕业就进四大啊

作者: eastlife03 时间: 2013-10-23 15:37:14

博大精深发表于 2013-9-25 00:01
我也是 Engineering Science 的。。今年大四

看来我还没毕业就已经失业了。。

Engsci还真不是坑，我包括我的同班同学除了2个在麻省理工还有剑桥读博的，剩下的基本都在大公司工作有一段时间了，前段时间大学同学聚会都觉得还不错。建议你看看一些Business Analysts方面的工作，不一定要只看Engineering方面的工作，Engsci里面 Stats, modelling, analysis这方面的背景适用于很多industry。

作者: eastlife03 时间: 2013-10-23 15:44:37

sophia92 发表于 2013-9-26 00:52
EngSci是属于与一定要早作打算的,我估计纯Engineering的工作是不会找咱们的,一定要找一些范围比较广的,更 ...

Opus是比较typical的Engsci company, 记得第二年的时候系里还组织去参观过，有两个同学毕业后在opus工作。Business Analysts确实比较适合Engsci(Operations Research)，读CM的童鞋貌似有3个在读博。。。-.-b.... IAG，Beca, ASB也都有同学在做Analytics方面的工作。觉得咱专业应该算是比较versatile的吧。

作者: AUTUMN2010 时间: 2013-10-23 18:55:46

后生可畏。。。。。支持一下

作者: srmilk 时间: 2013-10-23 21:05:36

好厉害的楼主。赞！

作者: everandplayer 时间: 2013-10-23 21:27:19

楼主方便留个邮箱吗，想具体请教找工作，谢谢

作者: 你回欧洲;我回中 时间: 2013-10-23 22:53:28

作者: Hello_Judyyy 时间: 2013-10-23 23:01:15

mark。。。

作者: BlueTeam 时间: 2013-10-23 23:31:32

wenkaifan 发表于 2013-10-23 11:44
想问一下你去ey是做什么。还有你朋友去的是什么公司啊？哪个薪水高三分之一的。还有ey不补助professional ...

EY的业务很广泛，进EY的人也是形形色色的。单就审计业务来说，对于申请人的专业没有太大的限制。比如，制造业和工矿业的审计业务就需要有工程学背景的毕业生。所以是不是商科会计专业毕业是没所谓的，但是没有工程学的背景知识就真的干不了了。

四大也好，其他的CA Firm也罢，都会支持员工去考证。但是公司越大它们的业务就越广泛，人员要求具备的资历就会更复杂。所以考CFA就不足为奇了，这是由工作性质和具体内容的需要来决定的。考CA的也就只是在财会金融行业里混得一类人罢了。

作者: xcmir 时间: 2013-10-24 01:42:30

G_ZONE 发表于 2013-10-23 11:47
我想知道工资多少

具我所知，四大的graduate salary基本上都是一样的，在4.5W左右。会根据部门，学位，工作地点略有差距

作者: BlueTeam 时间: 2013-10-24 06:44:19

xcmir 发表于 2013-10-24 02:42
具我所知，四大的graduate salary基本上都是一样的，在4.5W左右。会根据部门，学位，工作地点略有差距

同意，我知道的差不多也是这个数。

作者: wenkaifan 时间: 2013-10-24 12:26:02

BlueTeam 发表于 2013-10-24 00:31
EY的业务很广泛，进EY的人也是形形色色的。单就审计业务来说，对于申请人的专业没有太大的限制。比如，制 ...

您了解这么多，您也是在四大吗？

作者: xcmir 时间: 2013-10-24 12:56:07

wenkaifan 发表于 2013-10-24 13:26
您了解这么多，您也是在四大吗？

其实你想了解一个公司，不一定需要在哪里工作过。现在这个社会已经是网络时代了，很多资料在网络上就已经你查到，关于ey的，你可以看看他们的官网:http://www.ey.com/NZ/en/Careers/Students 还有脸谱https://www.facebook.com/eycareers 都可以了解很多信息。当然如果有条件的话，参加这些企业所举办的recruitment events和已经在公司里的人交流，是最好了解一个公司的方法。

作者: 于一鞭 时间: 2013-10-24 15:30:36

EY是啥公司？

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-10-24 16:03:23

wenkaifan 发表于 2013-10-23 11:44
想问一下你去ey是做什么。还有你朋友去的是什么公司啊？哪个薪水高三分之一的。还有ey不补助professional ...

我在Advisory,那个我的同学具体再哪里我就不透露了,她在一家保险公司当精算师. 读CFA 只有TAS才有补助,Advisory是没有的. 我不能考CA,因为没学过Accounting.

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-10-24 16:05:55

xcmir 发表于 2013-10-24 02:42
具我所知，四大的graduate salary基本上都是一样的，在4.5W左右。会根据部门，学位，工作地点略有差距

精准,一针见血,这是我心中永远的痛.

作者: BlueTeam 时间: 2013-10-24 16:21:14

wenkaifan 发表于 2013-10-24 13:26
您了解这么多，您也是在四大吗？

我只了解一部分，就是一些工作业务上有来往的事务所，注会还有审计员。因为我们CA FIRM一些客户业务的工作关系，我和四大，还有像BDO，Grant Thornton, WHK南岛的工作人员接触比较多。当然不论在四大也好，还是其它的事务所，学到真的本事才是最重要的。公司名气再大那也只是公司的，自己的路终究还是要凭着自己的本领来走。

作者: BlueTeam 时间: 2013-10-24 16:29:14

sophia92 发表于 2013-10-24 17:03
我在Advisory,那个我的同学具体再哪里我就不透露了,她在一家保险公司当精算师. 读CFA 只有TAS才有补助,Ad ...

为什么就一定要考CA，你做的是Advisory背景又是学工的，考CFA相当好。有没有补助其实关系不大，关键是你拿到CFA的证以后就不一样了。现在自己掏小钱，将来挣大钱。

进FIRM的本来就是被剥削的，PARTNER肯定是要拿大头的。但是你所得到的经验和经历却是无价的。

作者: xcmir 时间: 2013-10-24 17:00:56

BlueTeam 发表于 2013-10-24 17:29
为什么就一定要考CA，你做的是Advisory背景又是学工的，考CFA相当好。有没有补助其实关系不大，关键是你拿 ...

对于纽西兰和澳洲而言，相对来说不那么在意考证，不像在我国找工作一样，动不动就得把各种证书搬出来。尤其是对于CFA而言，应用面及其狭窄，除了部分Equity research和Investment management需要以外，基本上完全派不上用场。对于洋人老板，他们宁愿要一个有相关工作经验，没CFA的，也不愿意要一个有CFA没相关经验的。而且，对于CFA 而言，工资不像CA那样挂钩的。

作者: wenkaifan 时间: 2013-10-24 18:08:44

xcmir 发表于 2013-10-24 13:56
其实你想了解一个公司，不一定需要在哪里工作过。现在这个社会已经是网络时代了，很多资料在网络上就已经 ...

嘿嘿嘿，谢谢啦，其实我也是要在ey开始的intern，所以才对这个话题这么感兴趣。

作者: wenkaifan 时间: 2013-10-24 18:09:39

sophia92 发表于 2013-10-24 17:03
我在Advisory,那个我的同学具体再哪里我就不透露了,她在一家保险公司当精算师. 读CFA 只有TAS才有补助,Ad ...

你已经开始了吗？我也马上要在ey实习了，在Audit。还望多多关照啦！

作者: xcmir 时间: 2013-10-24 18:46:13

wenkaifan 发表于 2013-10-23 11:44
想问一下你去ey是做什么。还有你朋友去的是什么公司啊？哪个薪水高三分之一的。还有ey不补助professional ...

如果工资是你的唯一工作的考虑，要想工资高，有能力去投行。这边高盛今年给的底薪是12W+bonus

作者: huangzhihao 时间: 2013-10-24 19:58:10

谢谢你的分享，不是每个人都愿意这样做的。

作者: JinXiaoting 时间: 2013-10-24 21:40:51

原来在找到工作之前，历程都这么心酸~~

作者: sweetgirl87 时间: 2013-10-25 22:12:45

亲~~好厉害啊!!超级膜拜啊!!
PS: 看你读书很多年了在这边,请问是原本已经取得PR的了吗? AU不是已经很厉害的学校了吗?工作也这么难找啊~~忧心~~

作者: rookyyang 时间: 2013-10-26 07:53:15

读mechatronics的第三年马上下半期了,LZ有什么意嘛？

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-10-26 19:26:59

sweetgirl87 发表于 2013-10-25 23:12
亲~~好厉害啊!!超级膜拜啊!!
PS: 看你读书很多年了在这边,请问是原本已经取得PR的了吗? AU不是已经很厉害的 ...

谢了。我是和家人一起来的，应该算幸运的一波。我觉得奥大很一般啊，随便混混谁都可以。但是不排除有厉害的，但是他们都去别的国家了。我的感觉是现在奥大更注重金钱，不注重师资和学生，正在走下坡。当然啦，政府没钱也是有原因的。

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-10-26 19:29:01

rookyyang 发表于 2013-10-26 08:53
读mechatronics的第三年马上下半期了,LZ有什么意嘛？

饿，我没啥意思，我没说你会找不到工作，只是分享下我个人经历而已，希望没有得罪你。。。祝你找个好工作。

作者: rookyyang 时间: 2013-10-26 19:31:26

sophia92 发表于 2013-10-26 16:29
饿，我没啥意思，我没说你会找不到工作，只是分享下我个人经历而已，希望没有得罪你。。。祝你找个好工作 ...

我打错了。害您误会了，我现在是mechatronics第三年上半期，现在找工作有人会收我嘛？成绩一般。。。之前有交了一份实习报告。。。请给我些意见，谢谢！！！

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-10-26 19:36:55

eastlife03 发表于 2013-10-23 16:37
Engsci还真不是坑，我包括我的同班同学除了2个在麻省理工还有剑桥读博的，剩下的基本都在大公司工作有一段 ...

我只是觉得engsci强人太多了，个个都是原地满血复活的。所以和他们比起来，咱们只能蹲在角落里画圈圈。。。

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-10-26 19:46:55

rookyyang 发表于 2013-10-26 20:31
我打错了。害您误会了，我现在是mechatronics第三年上半期，现在找工作有人会收我嘛？成绩一般。。。之前 ...

你比我强多了，我到现在还没毕业呢，work report 也是今年才交的。放心吧，只要你从明年1月份开始擦亮眼睛，使劲找工作，总能找到的。千万不要等到6月份！还有CV要beef up，能怎么吹怎么吹，等你去了9个面试之后就发现和你一起面试的男生手都在抖实在很搞笑。（话说那个男生很厉害啊, investment banking都给面试，就是太紧张了)还有我觉得我面试成功的原因是因为我在和面试官坐电梯的时候就已经开始聊天了，然后面试就像聊天一样，虽然他会问我为什么拿C+。但是还是给我扯过去了。

作者: sweetgirl87 时间: 2013-10-27 09:29:15

sophia92 发表于 2013-10-26 19:26
谢了。我是和家人一起来的，应该算幸运的一波。我觉得奥大很一般啊，随便混混谁都可以。但是不排除有厉害 ...

可是听说奥大的毕业率挺低的哦~~会卡三分之二人呢~~不简单哟~!!

作者: r76941156 时间: 2013-10-28 03:34:42

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作者: Ling_1015 时间: 2013-10-28 18:04:04

奥大在纽西兰来说,应该算不错了吧,不是本地高中生,要进入奥大也要很高的雅思或者是学术成绩啊.

我现在也在犹豫读MKT 还是读MGMT. 有朋友给予一些建议吗? 谢谢

作者: Janet123 时间: 2013-10-29 07:23:30

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作者: sssssssssssssss 时间: 2013-10-29 16:21:44

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作者: sssssssssssssss 时间: 2013-10-29 16:23:06

有身份无身份重要吗？在面试的时候。。。。

作者: 美盛游艇CLUB 时间: 2013-10-29 16:32:34

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作者: a282678109 时间: 2013-10-29 16:38:57

请问楼主，这5万是年薪吗，楼主是master毕业的还是本科？

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-10-30 09:49:50

a282678109 发表于 2013-10-29 17:38
请问楼主，这5万是年薪吗，楼主是master毕业的还是本科？

5万是年薪，现在一般的市场价。但是我的薪水没有那么多。我准确的来说还没本科毕业呢，毕业证书还没拿到。

作者: sophia92 时间: 2013-10-30 09:57:44

sssssssssssssss 发表于 2013-10-29 17:23
有身份无身份重要吗？在面试的时候。。。。

这个看个人把，你要是够优秀，他们会给你出签证的。我觉得大公司是不太在乎这点小钱。但是如果别人不认识你，你很有可能就在HR就给刷下去了。直接和公司高层谈，要比过HR要容易。

作者: mywhitesmile 时间: 2013-10-30 12:46:21

没仔细阅读帖子的内容，但是乐意把经验和简历拿出来和大家分享，太难得啦，楼主真是个好姑娘！

作者: a282678109 时间: 2013-10-30 22:09:03

找到工作拿到job offer移民就能+50分了。奥大本科毕业就过140分了。就是不知道要多久雇主才愿意开job offer给你？

作者: superdino 时间: 2013-11-2 22:10:54

恭喜LZ，点赞！

作者: LUVABBY 时间: 2013-11-4 22:44:26

厉害厉害好有勇气赞一个

作者: cjh0810 时间: 2013-11-5 13:39:22

刚刚看到好帖子支持lz下

还有看到很多学mechatronics的来问我想说一下其实没有那么恐怖的，我们12年毕业的我认识的没有找不到工作的只要自己一步一步走好

作者: 越墮落。越快樂 时间: 2013-11-29 01:59:34

Sophia，才见到你的贴，你就是女神啊！

作者: 伊利丹怒风 时间: 2013-11-30 12:59:58

绝对得好帖子受教了非常感谢

作者: lingmoserar 时间: 2013-12-30 20:15:32

本帖最后由 lingmoserar 于 2014-1-2 22:41 编辑

我也是engsci，马上第三年了，想请教一下学长，学CM的的前景如何？我想学CM的electives，但是很担心就业前景，不知道新西兰有哪些公司是做这方面的？Altitude？

我希望毕业了能找到对口工作，不想读postgrad。想问新西兰有这方面的工作机会吗？

谢谢啦

作者: babycassocky 时间: 2014-1-7 08:46:09

亲，你可以帮我解答一下疑惑嘛？我现在是大三，学的是Construction（还没开学，今年11月毕业）因为大三的课程几乎都是不用去学校的，所以我在一家小的建筑公司实习，他也没给我工资那种。是不是在大三期间我就可以去面试找工作了啊？然后如果面试成功了，他们也会等到我毕业再上班？

作者: sophia92 时间: 2014-1-9 17:13:42

babycassocky 发表于 2014-1-7 09:46
亲，你可以帮我解答一下疑惑嘛？我现在是大三，学的是Construction（还没开学，今年11月毕业）因为大三的 ...

一般的大公司应该是没有问题的，但是也有一些公司，中小型的，会希望你马上开始。你去面试的时候要问清楚，在CV上最好也写上你什么时候expected to graduate.

作者: steelman 时间: 2014-2-5 10:58:06

谢谢分享宝贵资源和经验

作者: lingmoserar 时间: 2014-3-7 14:58:31

楼主！突然想到一个问题，您当初投简历到Altitude投的是什么position啊？engineering的graduate program吗？

作者: sophia92 时间: 2014-6-6 21:38:58

lingmoserar 发表于 2014-3-7 14:58
楼主！突然想到一个问题，您当初投简历到Altitude投的是什么position啊？engineering的graduate program吗？ ...

是啊，当时还是Beca的HR给我打的电话。但是grad position一般都只有两年，考虑好你两年后想干啥更重要。
还有没想到啊，时间过了那么久还有人回复啊。。。。很不好意思地说，我已经从EY跳槽4个月了。。。。

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