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作者: 国产零零柒 时间: 2014-4-4 21:35:10 标题: 以正视听：茂名事件无人死亡。

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作者: sunpoint2011 时间: 2014-4-4 21:46:20

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有时真不明白，为什么有些人不是大陆过来的，但就是特别关心大陆的事，不过都是负面的事，而且不怕苦不怕累的一条条转发到网上，生怕人家不知道。你说你如果是大陆人关心自己国家，同时也关心新西兰的事，很正常，有几个大陆人没事天天盯着台湾的负面新闻，还天天转发的？真是吃饱了撑着。

作者: carter 时间: 2014-4-4 21:47:46

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作者: 超级死穷鬼 时间: 2014-4-4 22:00:54

造谣动动嘴，辟谣跑断腿。

作者: masterq 时间: 2014-4-4 22:12:11

這個sniper殺死姣多男人！

作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-4 23:47:38

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超级死穷鬼发表于 2014-4-4 23:00
造谣动动嘴，辟谣跑断腿。

做謠？香港記者去采訪也被拘留......

有種你讓香港和國外記者去采訪，幫你辟謠

作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-4 23:51:48

为了XXX的名誉，可以埋没良智和良心，指鹿为马

作者: bintoo 时间: 2014-4-4 23:53:23

爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-5 00:47
做謠？香港記者去采訪也被拘留......

什么记者?苹果日报吗? 如果是，让他回港肯定写成大屠杀死过百人当中包括三岁小童和八十岁婆婆，然后超过十万人围堵政府大楼。。。。。。。。

做香港某些媒体的记者很简单的，我也会。

作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-4 23:56:29

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bintoo 发表于 2014-4-5 00:53
什么记者?苹果日报吗? 如果是，让他回港肯定写成大屠杀死过百人当中包括三岁小童和八十岁婆婆，然后超过十 ...

怎么啦！XX救火队，又想来辟谣。用谎话去掩盖另一谎话的结果是......
http://www.secretchina.com/news/14/03/31/535682.html

作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-4 23:59:05

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bintoo 发表于 2014-4-5 00:53
什么记者?苹果日报吗? 如果是，让他回港肯定写成大屠杀死过百人当中包括三岁小童和八十岁婆婆，然后超过十 ...

你去当香港记者？开玩笑？你的文章一出包你被六百万香港人骂

乖乖盖着良心，为你的老板辟谣吧

作者: bintoo 时间: 2014-4-5 00:01:36

爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-5 00:56
怎么啦！XX救火队，又想来辟谣。用谎话去掩盖另一谎话的结果是......
http://www.secretchina.com/news/ ...

哈哈，果然这样，太容易猜了

作者: bintoo 时间: 2014-4-5 00:03:26

爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-5 00:59
你去当香港记者？开玩笑？你的文章一出包你被六百万香港人骂

乖乖盖着良心，为你的老板辟谣吧

香港人无论如何都骂的啦，余孽。

作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-5 00:04:44

bintoo 发表于 2014-4-5 01:01
哈哈，果然这样，太容易猜了

你不是说过要用高压手段打击人民吗？为什么你要辟谣呢？不是你的梦想成真妈？还是你说过的不算数？

作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-5 00:10:38

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bintoo 发表于 2014-4-5 01:03
香港人无论如何都骂的啦，余孽。

你随了盖着良心辟谣，侮辱人家，还懂什么

我的人格绝对比你高尚，我关心穷苦的中国人。不像你，老想用暴力打压人民，现在成真了又不承认，你的罪孽比我重一百倍。我手上没有鲜血，但是你老想手上占血，老想用手上的武器来迫人闭嘴，你这种是真正的共孽

你放下屠刀，立地成佛还来得及

作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-5 00:18:56

bintoo 发表于 2014-4-5 01:03
香港人无论如何都骂的啦，余孽。

<郑坚豪>我看這是假片.共產黨不會傷害人民.共產黨愛人民.無一個人死傷

作者: bintoo 时间: 2014-4-5 06:36:26

爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-5 01:04
你不是说过要用高压手段打击人民吗？为什么你要辟谣呢？不是你的梦想成真妈？还是你说过的不算数？

我什么时候辟谣? 我有什么资格辟谣? 你太敏感了，高压对付的是暴徒，不是人民，你又混乱了。

作者: bintoo 时间: 2014-4-5 06:40:29

爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-5 01:18
我看這是假片.共產黨不會傷害人民.共產黨愛人民.無一個人死傷

确实不会伤害人民，但不包括暴徒，犯罪人，不然每年死刑和当场打死这么多罪犯，是不是又要扯到什么人权上去了?

作者: bintoo 时间: 2014-4-5 06:44:52

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爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-5 01:10
你随了盖着良心辟谣，侮辱人家，还懂什么

我的人格绝对比你高尚，我关心穷苦的中国人。不像你，老想用 ...

当你说五毛时，有没有想过侮辱? 为什么要之后改成XX? 还是你神智混乱到说完就忘记了? 你人格有多高我不好说，精神状态可以肯定不太稳定，我关心的是中国整体，而不是具体到那个穷苦的人。着或那个有钱有权的人，着眼点不同。

作者: 留园魔王 时间: 2014-4-5 09:09:34

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作者: 留园魔王 时间: 2014-4-5 09:12:01

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作者: 123大只广 时间: 2014-4-5 09:55:20

爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-4 23:51
为了XXX的名誉，可以埋没良智和良心，指鹿为马

你条反骨仔啊.等我土善你啊.香港狗仔写的新闻你就相信,国内官方出的你就不相信.你这就是偏见嘛.

作者: corruption 时间: 2014-4-5 10:05:14

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作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-6 00:15:48

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bintoo 发表于 2014-4-5 07:44
当你说五毛时，有没有想过侮辱? 为什么要之后改成XX? 还是你神智混乱到说完就忘记了? 你人格有多高我不 ...

XXX算是什么，看看真正世界级的抗争。你随了侮辱人，你对你的敌人一无所知。你做梦都想用暴力控制人民，看你现在得到什么。先来茂名，再来温州

Christians form human shield around church in 'China's Jerusalem' after demolition threat
Christians have flocked to defend a church in eastern China after Communist Party officials claimed it was an "illegal construction" and announced plans to demolish it.

By Tom Phillips, Wenzhou9:25PM BST 04 Apr 2014
Thousands of Chinese Christians have mounted an extraordinary, round-the-clock defence of a church in a city known as the 'Jerusalem of the East' after Communist Party officials threatened to bulldoze their place of worship.

In an episode that underlines the fierce and long-standing friction between China's officially atheist Communist Party and its rapidly growing Christian congregation, Bible-carrying believers this week flocked to the Sanjiang church in Wenzhou hoping to protect it from the bulldozers.

Their 24-hour guard began earlier this week when a demolition notice was plastered onto the newly-constructed church which worshippers say cost around 30 million yuan (￡2.91 million) and almost six years to build.

Officials claimed the church had been built illegally and used red paint to daub the words: "Demolish" and "Illegal construction" onto its towering facade.

The threat triggered a furious reaction in Wenzhou, a booming port city known for its vibrant Christian community, said to be China's largest.

Hundreds of people, including elderly and in some cases disabled women, have now occupied the church to prevent demolition teams moving in.

"There are bad people out there trying to damage our church so we must defend it," said Li Jingliu, a 56-year-old former factory worker who has been sleeping in one of its back offices since Wednesday.

"I've come here today to show my support. A church is a scared place and we are all brothers and sisters." said Jin Yufu, 55, from the nearby community of Wenling. "Christianity has made a big contribution to society in many ways. Thanks to Church we don't smoke, gamble or drink. Christians are good people."

Wenzhou, a wealthy coastal city around 230 miles south of Shanghai in Zhejiang province, has around seven million residents. Local Christians claim as many as 15 per cent of them are church goers, the majority Protestant.

Red crosses and spires still adorn the skyline of a city where British missionaries, including George Stott, set up churches towards the end of the 19th century.

Wenzhou's underground "house" churches – those unwilling to comply with Communist Party rules – have long been subjected to sporadic crackdowns, such as one in 2000 that saw hundreds of churches and temples demolished across Zhejiang province.
However, the Sanjiang church is part of the Three-Self Patriotic Movement, China's officially sanctioned and government-controlled Protestant church, making this week's stand-off highly unusual.

Parishioners believe their church was targeted after Xia Baolong, the provincial Party chief, visited the region and was unimpressed by the prominence of a church built to house thousands of worshippers.

"His behaviour is illegal. He has abused his power. The construction of the church is not against the law," said Wang Jianfeng, a 47-year-old man from a nearby congregation who was among hundreds of people gathered on the steps outside on Friday in a show of force.

Wen Xiaowu, another visitor, said he believed China's president would be "displeased" with his Communist colleagues in Zhejiang.
"Xi Jinping has said society should be harmonious. He is very open-minded about disciples of the Christian church."

Sanjiang's resistance has been organised with almost military precision. A makeshift kitchen behind the altar provides rice, pork and fried liver with leeks for those occupying the church while women hand out bottles of water and satsumas at the entrance.
By day, Christians from around the province crowd the church's steps, with undercover security agents mingling among them, snapping photos and eavesdropping. By night, hundreds of worshippers take it in turns to keep watch, grabbing a few hours of sleep on cramped wooden pews between shifts.

He Hongying, an 81-year-old member of the resistance, said she would stay for as long as necessary. "I slept here last night and I will do the same again tonight. We pulled two pews together so it was quite all right. We feel at peace and fearless when we are with our God."

The dispute over Sanjiang has highlighted the ongoing difficulties facing China's fast growing Christian community. In 1949, when the Communist Party took over, it boasted around one million members. Today, there are thought to be more Chinese Christians than Communist Party members, with up to 100 million mainland believers, according to some estimates.

Life has improved since the days of Mao Tse-tung, who saw religion as "poison" and presided over the decade-long Cultural Revolution when churches were ransacked and burned.

However, campaigners say that while the constitution guarantees freedom of religion, Beijing still maintains a tight-grip on what many leaders see as a potential challenge to their authority.

Members of Sanjiang's congregation said that, under Chinese law, they were only allowed to worship on Sundays. Preachers were required to avoid politically sensitives topics.

During a visit to China last month, Michelle Obama, the US First Lady, hinted at concerns over religious freedom here, telling an audience: "When it comes to expressing yourself freely, and worshipping as you choose, and having open access to information – we believe those are universal rights that are the birthright of every person on this planet."

A woman who introduced herself as a representative of the local government rejected claims the Communist Party was persecuting local Christians.

"They can believe. This is free. We can't control them," said the woman, who gave her name as Zhang Biyao.
Ms Zhang said the church had been illegally built and was structurally unsound. The government wanted to protect "people's safety," she claimed.

Sanjiang's congregation was unconvinced.

Yang Zhumei, 74, said she had pleaded with officials to leave her church alone.

"I held their hands and said, "Comrades, don't take down our cross. I can give you my head instead."
"Even if they take my head, I can still find happiness with God," she shouted.

Li Jingliu, who lost her right arm to an industrial accident and has been a church member for 34 years, said she would not allow her place of worship to be damaged. "I will guard the church until the very end, without fearing hardship or death," she said. "God will punish those who try to take down the cross."

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10745248/Christians-form-human-shield-around-church-in-Chinas-Jerusalem-after-demolition-threat.html

作者: 超级死穷鬼 时间: 2014-4-6 00:51:50

爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-5 00:47
做謠？香港記者去采訪也被拘留......

有種你讓香港和國外記者去采訪，幫你辟謠

造谣动动嘴，辟谣跑断腿。

作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-6 00:53:28

超级死穷鬼发表于 2014-4-6 01:51
造谣动动嘴，辟谣跑断腿。

西方社会造谣不是那么容易，但是华人社会......

作者: 超级死穷鬼 时间: 2014-4-6 00:56:54

爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-6 01:53
西方社会造谣不是那么容易，但是华人社会......

这个当然不容易，毕竟是发达国家，有全世界最好的监控系统。

作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-6 01:23:36

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超级死穷鬼发表于 2014-4-6 01:56
这个当然不容易，毕竟是发达国家，有全世界最好的监控系统。

这是我在网络上看到的，如果有人用英语在面书中做谣，马上会跑出一些真正懂的洋人专家，站出来理性的反驳

但是在中文网，做谣的不单不一定被理性的反驳，反是跑出一大堆不懂的人愈描愈黑。感觉很多中国人是中文媒体讲什么就信什么，不会怀疑消息的真确性。还有不少中国人把夸张失实的小报（英语叫tabloid）报导当成真实的消息来源

作者: 123大只广 时间: 2014-4-6 01:37:29

爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-6 01:23
这是我在网络上看到的，如果有人用英语在面书中做谣，马上会跑出一些真正懂的洋人专家，站出来理性的反驳 ...

你条粉肠啊.你系嘛想整大锅啊?

作者: 爱国爱港 时间: 2014-4-6 01:44:58

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123大只广发表于 2014-4-6 02:37
你条粉肠啊.你系嘛想整大锅啊?

我是劝大家不要搞大锅，不要迷信用武力压制人民
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作者: bintoo 时间: 2014-4-6 06:40:27

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爱国爱港发表于 2014-4-6 01:15
XXX算是什么，看看真正世界级的抗争。你随了侮辱人，你对你的敌人一无所知。你做梦都想用暴力控制人民，看 ...

看看你，思维混乱得都接近崩溃边缘了，xxx不算什么，但控制着世界人口第一大国，GDP第二大国，和敢于向西方欧美为首的洗脑意识形态说不，敢于保卫自己国家不受西人的野蛮殖民，能抵抗民主谬论的谎言，让中国人走自己的道路，那个国家的XXX能做到?

暴力对付的是暴民和恐怖分子。跟有道德的人讲道理。跟遵纪守法的人讲法理，跟野蛮被西方洗脑利用的精神病人，当然讲蛮理，你要我也引用一下你英国干爹的暴力镇压自己国民的历史吗。你脆弱的心脏能接受这民主病洗脑外的历史实施吗?

作者: AUGUSTUS 时间: 2014-4-6 10:00:56

LZ 可以引用這種官方報道，但我覺得很蒼白無力。追著人群瞄著他們放槍也算作鳴槍示警？

本來想減你分來著，但我又不想破戒。

作者: sky-horse 时间: 2014-4-6 10:05:30

AUGUSTUS 发表于 2014-4-6 10:00
LZ 可以引用這種官方報道，但我覺得很蒼白無力。追著人群瞄著他們放槍也算作鳴槍示警？

本來想減你分來著 ...

我是踩着皇兄的足迹进来的，这种议题没人感性趣！

作者: AUGUSTUS 时间: 2014-4-6 10:07:39

sky-horse 发表于 2014-4-6 11:05
我是踩着皇兄的足迹进来的，这种议题没人感性趣！

嗯，too simple, always naive.

作者: carter 时间: 2014-4-6 10:12:58

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作者: sky-horse 时间: 2014-4-6 10:19:48

AUGUSTUS 发表于 2014-4-6 10:07
嗯，too simple, always naive.

说吧，我洗耳恭听。愿听皇兄教诲！

作者: AUGUSTUS 时间: 2014-4-6 10:38:57

sky-horse 发表于 2014-4-6 11:19
说吧，我洗耳恭听。愿听皇兄教诲！

no lar .....

這種爭論永遠沒有結果。

各有立場，各有信仰。

所以只能以事實說話。

作者: sky-horse 时间: 2014-4-6 10:42:08

AUGUSTUS 发表于 2014-4-6 10:38
no lar .....

這種爭論永遠沒有結果。

皇兄说得是，事实说话！！！皇弟也是这个观点。

作者: AUGUSTUS 时间: 2014-4-6 10:47:55

sky-horse 发表于 2014-4-6 11:42
皇兄说得是，事实说话！！！皇弟也是这个观点。

這裡很多人，明明眼睛看到了真相，但頭腦卻告訴自己這是假的，而且還像中了降頭一樣，到處宣揚這個宇宙只有紅色的事物才能打救人類。

朕笑而不語。。。。

作者: sky-horse 时间: 2014-4-6 10:54:55

AUGUSTUS 发表于 2014-4-6 10:47
這裡很多人，明明眼睛看到了真相，但頭腦卻告訴自己這是假的，而且還像中了降頭一樣，到處宣揚這個宇宙只 ...

听说习大大的军改，是要学美国的联合作战司令部，以及参谋长联席会议制，也就是说开始照搬美国，司法改革也是开始仿美国在省以下司法独立。不知要急坏了本版的那些反美派！

哎！看不懂也是奔当的根源。

作者: AUGUSTUS 时间: 2014-4-6 11:04:42

sky-horse 发表于 2014-4-6 11:54
听说习大大的军改，是要学美国的联合作战司令部，以及参谋长联席会议制，也就是说开始照搬美国，司法改革 ...

沒有用。心肌壞死，無藥可救。

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