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作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 10:44:43     标题: 这些可怜滴孩纸

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/P ... -school-scandal.htm



Justice for Chinese students- Migrant Lives Matter

Meeting at UNITE Union headquarters 7:00pm this Thursday and protest 2:00pm Friday at 280 Queen St called by the Migrant Workers Association.

A group of Chinese Students are demanding that the government help them after NZQA have closed their school and discovered that the owner has stolen most of their money. The students, who have been told by NZQA that despite paying $14,000 and spending a year studying in New Zealand that their qualifications will not be issued and that NZQA cannot transfer them to another school.

Students at New Zealand National College (NZNC) were told by NZQA on 16th January 2018 that the school would be closed and qualifications not awarded. The students were told to either find a place at another school or apply for a Visitor’s Visa.

At the time NZQA announced the closure of the NZNC, a group of around 40 students were just one step away from graduating. Their final exam ended on 15th December 2017, three weeks before the official closure of NZNC.

Worse still, the students have discovered that the school was charging the Chinese Students $14,000 a year while charging some other nationalities only $6,000 a year. NZQA have told them that that despite NZQA oversight, it’s up to the school to charge whatever they like depending on what country the students came from.

“We came to this country to study because we knew that NZNC was permitted by the New Zealand Government to teach a NZQA approved qualification but after we passed the course and just before our graduation day NZQA have told us that the qualification is worthless and that the owner has stolen our fees by not paying them into the Public Trust” said Frank, one of the students.


In discussions with NZQA about their options, the students were shocked to discover that the school owners had only deposited $6,000 of the $14,000 in fees charged into the Public Trust while pocketing the other $8,000. Further, NZQA told some students that the receipts given by NZNC were not “official”. Many students reported also that the school told them that all school fees must be paid either in cash or by bank cheque.

“We made enquiries with other students and suddenly found out that only Chinese students were charged $14,000 while other nationalities were charged $6,000” said Tom, another of the students. NZQA advised these students that schools could charge what they liked and if the students wanted to recover their money they would have to do it themselves.

While some of the Level 5 and 6 students were able to transfer to courses in other schools, NZQA have advised the group of Level 7 Business Diploma students that there are no other courses taught locally that can accommodate them and therefore the students are left stranded with no money and no qualification.

Worse still, the students have now discovered that many other schools will not accept cross credits from the course they completed and because NZNC undertook their own English assessments, something permitted by NZQA at the time, and that their English levels are just not sufficient to get entry into other courses.

Frank said “When we paid our fees and applied for a visa we felt so happy that New Zealand was inviting us to study a good quality qualification here. My parents worked so hard to save money for my study. Now, after I studied so hard for the course and waiting to graduate the Government has told me that I can’t have the qualification, that my money has gone and I can’t get into another course. They also told me that it’s ok for a Government approved course to charge $8,000 more simply because I am Chinese. Is this how New Zealand treats international students?”

Immigration lawyer Alastair McClymont has been advising the group of students “It’s embarrassing as a New Zealander to have to explain to these students that their school was approved by the government yet we take their money, don’t give them the qualification and tell them that it’s ok to charge hugely different fees based on what country they come from”. Mr McClymont adds “At a time when the tertiary education sector is lobbying the new Minister of Immigration to not make any changes to the money-making scam that passes as an export education sector, we continue to hear these stories from students every day”.

“Rather than the New Zealand Government falling over themselves to help these poor victims our Immigration system seems to be that it’s their problem, we’ve got your money, so just go away now. The ultimate irony being that the school operated 238 Queen St., just a few steps from the Auckland offices of Immigration New Zealand.

To make an even more of a mockery over the government’s concern for student victims, NZQA told the students that they would welcome any information about the school owner yet when the students went to the closed down school premises this week they found the owner still sitting at his desk selling the remainder of the school’s furniture.

“Why isn’t this thief in the jail” demanded Tom.
Joe Carolan, from the Migrant Lives Matter campaign, added-
“It’s now a year since the National Government deported Indian students who were the victims of similar crooks in these schools. If anyone should be deported, it’s these education criminals, not their victims. Jacinda visited the Sanctuary occupation of the deportees last year and got a sound understanding of the issue alongside then Labour leader Andrew Little- I’m personally calling on both now to intervene on behalf of these young students before New Zealand’s name turns to mud”.

Justice for Chinese Students.




作者: angelee123    时间: 2018-2-22 10:50:55

common story..................................................

作者: angelvan2012    时间: 2018-2-22 10:53:26

反正我是无法理解为啥要去上野鸡学校。
作者: 匿名    时间: 2018-2-22 10:53:34

新西兰的PTE如果说50%
有问题的话,绝对不夸张,nzqa每年枪打几个出头鸟,所谓的监管更是隔靴搔痒

作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 10:58:12

校长倒是赚的爽...
作者: eurotour    时间: 2018-2-22 10:58:50

看不懂。。。。。。
作者: NewLynnHse    时间: 2018-2-22 11:04:22

新西兰的大学已经够野鸡的了,他们竟然还去上这种比野鸡还野鸡的学校,不被坑才怪。直接遣返吧,活该。
作者: angelee123    时间: 2018-2-22 11:05:34

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-2-22 11:04
新西兰的大学已经够野鸡的了,他们竟然还去上这种比野鸡还野鸡的学校,不被坑才怪。直接遣返吧,活该。 ...

野鸡中的战斗机。。。。。
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 11:09:51

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-2-22 11:04
新西兰的大学已经够野鸡的了,他们竟然还去上这种比野鸡还野鸡的学校,不被坑才怪。直接遣返吧,活该。 ...

开这些学校的应该也要被惩罚~
收中国学生14000, 其他学生6000真是忒那啥了
作者: 呼啸寒风    时间: 2018-2-22 11:10:40

03年的时候不也有这么一出么,学校倒闭,学生亏钱
before New Zealand’s name turns to mud---新西兰的教育名声早就muddy了
作者: NewLynnHse    时间: 2018-2-22 11:12:21

白胡子 发表于 2018-2-22 11:09
开这些学校的应该也要被惩罚~
收中国学生14000, 其他学生6000真是忒那啥了

这种人很难被法律制裁的,因为他们只要清盘就脱身了。学生们只能自己想办法,比如跟南区的岛人大叔聊聊之类的,你懂的。。。哈哈
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 11:15:21

呼啸寒风 发表于 2018-2-22 11:10
03年的时候不也有这么一出么,学校倒闭,学生亏钱
before New Zealand’s name turns to mud---新西兰的教 ...

幸好我03年的时候还在读高中 lol...
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 11:15:45

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-2-22 11:12
这种人很难被法律制裁的,因为他们只要清盘就脱身了。学生们只能自己想办法,比如跟南区的岛人大叔聊聊之 ...

感觉他们的钱拿不回来了~
作者: haohmarucj    时间: 2018-2-22 11:17:12

中介功不可没~
作者: NewLynnHse    时间: 2018-2-22 11:22:20

白胡子 发表于 2018-2-22 11:15
感觉他们的钱拿不回来了~

人家如果有心要吞下去,怎么可能再吐出来呢?还是找毛岛大叔吧。。。哈哈
作者: 匿名    时间: 2018-2-22 11:25:10

白胡子 发表于 2018-2-22 11:09
开这些学校的应该也要被惩罚~
收中国学生14000, 其他学生6000真是忒那啥了

几乎所有做中国,印度,和其他国家市场的pte都是按国籍charge学费,这是潜规则

打个比方

中国收全价
印度收全价
韩国日本打7折
南美打4折


作者: bintoo    时间: 2018-2-22 11:27:13

为什么可以收中国学生更加高的费用而又被视为合理的?

如果中国人企业或房东等收取kiwi或其他民族额外高的服务费或房租等, 不知道人权婊们会不会跳出来发烂渣呢?
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 11:35:02

匿名者 发表于 2018-2-22 11:25
几乎所有做中国,印度,和其他国家市场的pte都是按国籍charge学费,这是潜规则

打个比方

还有这种操作?.jpg
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 11:35:45

bintoo 发表于 2018-2-22 11:27
为什么可以收中国学生更加高的费用而又被视为合理的?

如果中国人企业或房东等收取kiwi或其他民族额外高的 ...

仲洗问?~ 梗会嘎...
作者: aj7    时间: 2018-2-22 11:42:08

爷爷 咱们不能写点 中文字吗,, 我又要练阅读了。。
作者: vliu73    时间: 2018-2-22 11:44:08

看来要想从野鸡大学安全毕业,也不是件很容易的事情啊
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 11:51:07

aj7 发表于 2018-2-22 11:42
爷爷 咱们不能写点 中文字吗,, 我又要练阅读了。。

时刻复习才是好学生

作者: 匿名    时间: 2018-2-22 11:53:00

白胡子 发表于 2018-2-22 11:35
还有这种操作?.jpg

是真的,但只是专业课,不是语言课,印度人不学语言,语言课普遍价格差不多,但有时日韩可能会有点特价优惠,不会很多,南美的是真心便宜,而且大家都知道,国内来的语言交全费,本地中介或者自己找学校的,拿折扣,所以有些学生下了飞机就开始找本地学校然后换,这就是为什么中介会花很多心思在新来的学生身上

作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 12:17:12

匿名者 发表于 2018-2-22 11:53
是真的,但只是专业课,不是语言课,印度人不学语言,语言课普遍价格差不多,但有时日韩可能会有点特价优 ...

怪不得一直有人说老移民一直坑新移民什么的…
作者: 261874939    时间: 2018-2-22 12:20:07

这么长一段字,我只看懂了NZQA 我想应该是跟教育局有关
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 12:24:33

261874939 发表于 2018-2-22 12:20
这么长一段字,我只看懂了NZQA 我想应该是跟教育局有关

木有错~                 
作者: liuya793    时间: 2018-2-22 12:30:09

白胡子 发表于 2018-2-22 11:15
幸好我03年的时候还在读高中 lol...

03年你还在读高中,看来你才34上下
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 12:35:09

liuya793 发表于 2018-2-22 12:30
03年你还在读高中,看来你才34上下


暴露年龄了么           
作者: leonardo216    时间: 2018-2-22 12:43:01

又是中介做的孽
作者: liuya793    时间: 2018-2-22 12:48:57

白胡子 发表于 2018-2-22 12:35
暴露年龄了么

看来缘分板块那些你都适合只要没有太苛刻的身高要求
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 12:52:32

liuya793 发表于 2018-2-22 12:48
看来缘分板块那些你都适合只要没有太苛刻的身高要求


扎心了老铁
老夫是残疾人身高....
作者: 鸢芷清    时间: 2018-2-22 13:21:42

看不懂英文



作者: superok    时间: 2018-2-22 18:09:11

白胡子 发表于 2018-2-22 12:52
扎心了老铁
老夫是残疾人身高....

药爷可以关心一下,那些可怜的妹子哦~~
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-22 18:38:47

superok 发表于 2018-2-22 18:09
药爷可以关心一下,那些可怜的妹子哦~~

老夫只能精神上支持他们
作者: 饼饼V587    时间: 2018-2-22 19:18:07

读野鸡大学纵然是能力上有点问题,但新西兰NZQA是不是监管也太差了,新西兰自己真的是想把自己的名声彻底搞臭吗?真可怜这帮学生,尤其是那些快要毕业的。
作者: 北岛黑蜻蜓    时间: 2018-2-22 19:26:22

英语真好啊

看得我眼花缭乱
作者: 北岛黑蜻蜓    时间: 2018-2-22 19:32:38

匿名者 发表于 2018-2-22 11:25
几乎所有做中国,印度,和其他国家市场的pte都是按国籍charge学费,这是潜规则

打个比方

欧洲收20%
作者: 匿名    时间: 2018-2-22 20:46:01

中介只是关心他们的提成 怎么会关心学生的死活

作者: 桔子920    时间: 2018-2-22 21:52:42

haohmarucj 发表于 2018-2-22 11:17
中介功不可没~

对呀!当初有在这个学校读过语言,当时就是中介首推这个学3校的。。。
作者: 董董    时间: 2018-2-23 02:12:39

北岛黑蜻蜓 发表于 2018-2-22 19:26
英语真好啊

看得我眼花缭乱

人家从小在这边长大的羡慕吧。。。。。
作者: 董董    时间: 2018-2-23 02:13:02

爷爷翻译一下吧。。。。不会English。。。。
作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-23 05:27:16

董董 发表于 2018-2-23 02:13
爷爷翻译一下吧。。。。不会English。。。。

...快看 给你复习英语的机会你还要中文翻译
作者: NewLynnHse    时间: 2018-2-23 07:28:31

这个学校一开始就是吃定中国人的套路了,还有这么多人甘心上当。。。哈哈

收中国人14000,别的国家的6000。摆明了在说“不宰你宰谁?”。唉,中国人的冤大头真多。。。哈哈

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national ... wn-business-college

A Chinese student, who did not want to be named, claimed the school was charging students from China $14,000 a year, while charging some other nationalities only $6,000 a year.
作者: 6mh    时间: 2018-2-23 15:39:35

刚刚特地下去看了一下示威,也没什么用
作者: 靓丽2008    时间: 2018-2-23 17:32:32

白胡子 发表于 2018-2-22 11:09
开这些学校的应该也要被惩罚~
收中国学生14000, 其他学生6000真是忒那啥了

有一个问题需要考虑进去:学校返还给不同国家的中介的“佣金”会不会是不一样的呢?












作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-23 17:40:31

靓丽2008 发表于 2018-2-23 17:32
有一个问题需要考虑进去:学校返还给不同国家的中介的“佣金”会不会是不一样的呢?

从校长那抠出来

作者: 靓丽2008    时间: 2018-2-23 17:48:49

白胡子 发表于 2018-2-23 17:40
从校长那抠出来

别逗,我是认真的。
比如说,学校返还给华人中介的佣金会不会是9000刀,南非的而是只有1000刀呢?

如果有人知道这个游戏规则的可以透露一下




作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-23 17:51:42

靓丽2008 发表于 2018-2-23 17:48
别逗,我是认真的。
比如说,学校返还给华人中介的佣金会不会是9000刀,南非的而是只有1000刀呢?

6000是国际学生的学费不是么 所以9000应该是不可能的吧...
作者: 靓丽2008    时间: 2018-2-23 17:56:35

本帖最后由 靓丽2008 于 2018-2-23 17:58 编辑
白胡子 发表于 2018-2-23 17:51
6000是国际学生的学费不是么 所以9000应该是不可能的吧...

我刚刚也只不过是打个比方,具体数字不重要。

我的意思是说:
学校收中国学生14000,返给华人留学中介9000,学校实际收费5000;
学校收韩国学生10000,返给韩国中介5000,学校实际收费也是5000
学校收南非学生6000,返给南非中介1000,学校实际收费也是5000
.............






作者: 白胡子    时间: 2018-2-23 19:00:48

靓丽2008 发表于 2018-2-23 17:56
我刚刚也只不过是打个比方,具体数字不重要。

我的意思是说:

不知道哟 看有没有这些中介出来说话啊~




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