雪铁龙ds5

dachel1988

今天去看了看车。。雪铁龙新系列ds系列的ds5好tm帅啊。。里面也是
而且听说是1.6t。食用mini copper s的引擎，试开了一下。相当有力。感觉内饰也很豪华很有设计感。。金属感也很强。。
大家对ds5有了解么。觉得怎么样？

J_chn

不错啊，ds系列。我就很喜欢ds4的设计。
不过在新西兰真的算是小众的车

casanova

喜欢外表 却没勇气买的 小车车.....

dachel1988

ds5挺大的。。里面空间也很大啊。

ilmaro

相对来说,雪铁龙没有标致好,定位就比标致要低一些.但这两品牌前几代的汽油车,都不怎么好.....买它们的车,我只买柴油的.....

dachel1988

ilmaro 发表于 2013-4-23 23:02
相对来说,雪铁龙没有标致好,定位就比标致要低一些.但这两品牌前几代的汽油车,都不怎么好.....买它们的车,我 ...

仅是不同往日了吧？。。而且标致真不咋的。。现在跟雪铁龙比差远了。

ilmaro

dachel1988 发表于 2013-4-24 00:36
仅是不同往日了吧？。。而且标致真不咋的。。现在跟雪铁龙比差远了。

呵呵,标致比雪铁龙差远了??什么原因??

dachel1988

alex0566 发表于 2013-4-24 10:05
怎么能差远了呢 除了样子不一样 底下技术一样

现在标志用的什么引擎跟技术？~

keepower

dachel1988 发表于 2013-4-24 15:08
现在标志用的什么引擎跟技术？~

207GTi用的就是这款和mini共同开发的1.6T 208GTi不是很清楚

863364

标致和雪铁龙早就是一家公司了

ilmaro

dachel1988 发表于 2013-4-24 15:08
现在标志用的什么引擎跟技术？~

PSA 棋下公司名叫 标致雪铁龙集团,不是叫雪铁龙标致集团.由标致公司拥有.1974年,标致占38.2%股份,1976年,政府出资标致公司,标致先占89.95%,然后全部买断雪铁龙公司,而不是雪铁龙买断标致公司.
新集团的研发,设计,生产,技术专利都归属标致公司,公司以标致名义上市,雪铁龙为一品牌子公司.是欧洲第二大汽车公司..雪铁龙只是公司第二品牌系列.标致品牌延续的是一贯的全系列车系开发,而雪铁龙品牌系列,保持一贯的低价销售策略,这是标致雪铁龙公司的定位.

KsMotor

一说起标致我就郁闷了，客人的206cc撞了右后轮，需要换轮子，hub，刹车，避震，带air bag的座椅。。。
二手问了几家，什么都没有，全新又太贵，估计还要从法国来，可能等着报废了
所以买那些冷门车一定要买全险和机械险。

ilmaro

KsMotor 发表于 2013-4-24 21:33
一说起标致我就郁闷了，客人的206cc撞了右后轮，需要换轮子，hub，刹车，避震，带air bag的座椅。。。
二手 ...

有空帮我查查 刹车盘和刹车片 全新的什么价不?

KsMotor

ilmaro 发表于 2013-4-24 21:44
有空帮我查查 刹车盘和刹车片 全新的什么价不?

有副厂的话还是选择副厂的吧，因为欧洲车原厂件肯定贵，估计一张刹车盘都要$300起，我们价格估计也就15%off，一般没办法，没有副厂才会逼不得已选择原厂件

ilmaro

KsMotor 发表于 2013-4-24 22:10
有副厂的话还是选择副厂的吧，因为欧洲车原厂件肯定贵，估计一张刹车盘都要$300起，我们价格估计也就15%o ...

原厂前刹车盘,149+GST 一个,前刹车片 145+GST 一组........
我定的 TRW 前刹车盘加上GST后总价 75 一个,前刹车片加上GST后总价 80 一组......

bctwnud

KsMotor 发表于 2013-4-24 22:10
有副厂的话还是选择副厂的吧，因为欧洲车原厂件肯定贵，估计一张刹车盘都要$300起，我们价格估计也就15%o ...

那麼你老家(中國)的二手店家呢?
零件坐船雖然花時間, 但比报废好..

KsMotor

ilmaro 发表于 2013-4-24 22:15
原厂前刹车盘,149+GST 一个,前刹车片 145+GST 一组........
我定的 TRW 前刹车盘加上GST后总价 75 一个, ...

原厂那么便宜？不过不同车价格真的不一样。
我朋友GTT副厂前刹车盘$300多一个！
TRW牌子还不错

ilmaro

KsMotor 发表于 2013-4-24 22:28
原厂那么便宜？不过不同车价格真的不一样。
我朋友GTT副厂前刹车盘$300多一个！
TRW牌子还不错

呵呵,所以啊....有时不要估计啦....我就是想告诉你这个,哈哈.....
标致全系列的车,零件大部份REPCO等店,都有卖的....206CC的,可能少一些,但有些还是会有的......帮你朋友查查吧.....另外,原厂也问问吧....
话说,我定的TRW已全部到货了,就等着换了.....

KsMotor

bctwnud 发表于 2013-4-24 22:17
那麼你老家(中國)的二手店家呢?
零件坐船雖然花時間, 但比报废好..

从来没有在国内买过二手或者全新，因为风险大，怕配件不对，加上难以给保修。

bctwnud

KsMotor 发表于 2013-4-24 22:31
从来没有在国内买过二手或者全新，因为风险大，怕配件不对，加上难以给保修。

也對,

如果國內有配合的店/人, 就比較保險.

KsMotor

ilmaro 发表于 2013-4-24 22:30
呵呵,所以啊....有时不要估计啦....我就是想告诉你这个,哈哈.....
标致全系列的车,零件大部份REPCO等店, ...

不是啊，repco是卖消耗品的，Hub，caliper，subframe那些是没有的.因为现在找不到那些二手的，光有刹车盘和片也没有意思

ilmaro

KsMotor 发表于 2013-4-24 22:37
不是啊，repco是卖消耗品的，Hub，caliper，subframe那些是没有的.因为现在找不到那些二手的，光有刹车盘 ...

部分零件是有的,你再问问......
刹车片还有一种加上GST才55,也是TRW的,型号不同.....没想到吧??比你今天换的MRS的还便宜????呵呵......

jangmingkad

ilmaro 发表于 2013-4-24 22:40
部分零件是有的,你再问问......
刹车片还有一种加上GST才55,也是TRW的,型号不同.....没想到吧??比你今天 ...

自己买了以后去哪里换呢？

ilmaro

jangmingkad 发表于 2013-4-26 02:46
自己买了以后去哪里换呢？

去信得过的,可靠的,不宰客的.....

jangmingkad

ilmaro 发表于 2013-4-26 02:53
去信得过的,可靠的,不宰客的.....

推荐一个吧，谢谢

J_chn

ilmaro 发表于 2013-4-24 21:05
PSA 棋下公司名叫 标致雪铁龙集团,不是叫雪铁龙标致集团.由标致公司拥有.1974年,标致占38.2%股份,1976年, ...

嗯，没错。
再补充一下

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PSA Peugeot Citroën (officially Peugeot S.A., informally PSA) is a French multinational manufacturer of automobiles and motorcycles sold under the Peugeot and Citroën marques. Headquartered in the16th arrondissement of Paris, PSA is the second-largest Europe-based automaker (after Volkswagen Group) and the eighth-largest in the world measured by 2010 unit production.[5] PSA is listed on theEuronext Paris stock exchange and is not a constituent of the CAC 40 index.



History

In December 1974 Peugeot S.A. acquired a 38.2% share of Citroën. On 9 April 1976[8] they increased their stake of the then bankrupt company to 89.95%, thus creating the PSA Group (where PSA is short for Peugeot Société Anonyme), becoming PSA Peugeot Citroën.[9] Since Citroën had two successful new designs in the market at this time (the GS and CX) and Peugeot was typically prudent in its own finances, the PSA venture was a financial success from 1976 to 1979.

In late 1978, PSA purchased the failing Chrysler Europe (which was formerly Rootes and Simca), from the troubled U.S. parent firm for a nominal USD $1.00, plus assumption of outstanding debt, leading to losses for the consortium from 1980 to 1985.[10] Further investment was required because PSA decided to create a new brand for the entity for the disparate French and British models, based on the Talbot sports car last seen in the 1950s. From then on, the whole Chrysler/Simca range was sold under the Talbot badge until production of Talbot-branded passenger cars was shelved in 1987 and on commercial vehicles in 1992.[11]

All of this investment caused serious financial problems for the entire PSA group; PSA lost money from 1980 to 1985. In 1986, the company dropped the Talbot brand for passenger cars when it ceased production of the Simca-based Horizon, Alpine and Solara models. What was to have been the Talbot Arizona became the 309, with the former Rootes plant in Ryton and Simca plant in Poissy being turned over for Peugeot assembly. Producing Peugeots in Ryton was significant, as it signalled the first time that PSA would build cars in the UK. The Talbot name survived for a little longer on commercial vehicles until 1992 before being shelved completely.

On 29 February 2012, PSA formally announced the creation of a major alliance with General Motors (GM), as part of which GM became PSA's second-largest shareholder, after the Peugeot family, with a holding of 7%. The alliance is intended to enable $2 billion per year of cost savings through platform sharing, common purchasing and other economies of scale.[12]

In July 2012, a union official said that PSA Peugeot Citroen will cut as 10 percent (8,000-10,000) of its French workforce of 100,356 employees on permanent and temporary contract. The jobs cut is more than previously announced.[13][14]

On October 24, PSA said it was close to an agreement with creditor banks on 11.5 billion euros ($14.9 billion) of refinancing and had won state guarantees on 7 billion euros in further borrowing by its Banque PSA Finance. [15]

CEO Philippe Varin says that "Citroën and Peugeot are too close", so he plans on making Citroën more budget friendly, the DS car brand more entry-level and Peugeot will be moved towards the premium market.

Operations

World locations of PSA factories

The Peugeot and Citroën brands retain separate sales and marketing structures, but share common technology, development and assembling assets.PSA is actively committed to develop its market presence and sales in many fast growing developing countries and regions of the world. This led to huge investments and partnerships in South America, Iran (Iran Khodro) and China(Dongfeng Peugeot-Citroën Automobile). It announced plans to invest

名字似乎很重要

车很好看，但是很少见。如果修起来应该会比较辛苦。