Swift sport

icemark

新款的Suzuki swift sport 好吗 值得买吗

PhoneCareLtd

很红的小车  动力不错   好像也不容易坏   市场占有率很高所以肯定也好修

大内密探007

1.6的那款？以前有辆爆改过的，好像从香港运进来的？

kobemvp

新款不错，136HP好像，6速手波。。。省油，有力，空间不小。

无名の小菜花

挺快的小车  很好开

爱国爱港

值得买......

KsMotor

据说电脑容易坏？？？

爱国爱港

KsMotor 发表于 2012-9-4 00:27
据说电脑容易坏？？？

consumer.org.nz 说是可靠车哦

ilmaro

爱国爱港 发表于 2012-9-4 01:22
consumer.org.nz 说是可靠车哦

你的网站对 peugeot 207 1.7 turbo HDI 怎么说啊兄弟？

KsMotor

爱国爱港 发表于 2012-9-4 01:22
consumer.org.nz 说是可靠车哦

那就不清楚了，不过已经有两台客人的SWIFT电脑坏了，其中一台是SPORT版的

爱国爱港

ilmaro 发表于 2012-9-4 01:30
你的网站对 peugeot 207 1.7 turbo HDI 怎么说啊兄弟？

consumer.org.nz随了日本车和韩国车，欧洲车和澳洲车的评价都是新车三年以后故障率高

peugeot 207 1.7 turbo HDI，欧洲车+柴油引擎+turbo，Dog and Lemon Guide的评级肯定是not recommended或者avoid like the plague

爱国爱港

KsMotor 发表于 2012-9-4 01:40
那就不清楚了，不过已经有两台客人的SWIFT电脑坏了，其中一台是SPORT版的

谢谢爆料哦

ilmaro

爱国爱港 发表于 2012-9-4 01:40
consumer.org.nz随了日本车和韩国车，欧洲车和澳洲车的评价都是新车三年以后故障率高

peugeot 207 1.7 ...

这是你查了资料的结果，还是猜的啊？

爱国爱港

ilmaro 发表于 2012-9-4 09:20
这是你查了资料的结果，还是猜的啊？

真正dog and lemon guide网上查我要付钱的。但是2010书版，我记得大部分标志、雷诺、爱快罗密欧、菲雅特、宾弛和大众车都是not recommended或者avoid like the plague，一些Mini、宝马和士柯达的评级是okay但还是爆料说出一大堆隐疾。那本书我在墨尔本丢了

kobemvp

top gear和auto car给这车评价都不低。。。

南极熊

KsMotor 发表于 2012-9-4 01:40
那就不清楚了，不过已经有两台客人的SWIFT电脑坏了，其中一台是SPORT版的

ECU都会坏？感觉日车的ECU应该是一辈子坏不了的啊。。。。

colercool1

很好开的车 ，  你想买的是11、12 年的？

jinxin56

6速手波 没坐过。。。其他版本的一律软弱无力。。。

casanova

KsMotor 发表于 2012-9-4 01:40
那就不清楚了，不过已经有两台客人的SWIFT电脑坏了，其中一台是SPORT版的

ks 哥~ 不好意思  小的 想请问下 你修的那两台 请问里面你有注意到 有换过 led 灯泡 or hid 灯泡之类的吗??etc

KsMotor

casanova 发表于 2012-9-4 16:56
ks 哥~ 不好意思  小的 想请问下 你修的那两台 请问里面你有注意到 有换过 led 灯泡 or hid 灯泡之类的吗 ...

有一台换过HID。。。。。。

ilmaro

爱国爱港 发表于 2012-9-4 13:53
真正dog and lemon guide网上查我要付钱的。但是2010书版，我记得大部分标志、雷诺、爱快罗密欧、菲雅特、 ...

哦，就发动机而言，PSA的HDI技术还是不错的，和TDI有得一拼。但买这种车，最怕的也就是别的子系统不稳定了，唉……

jinxin56

KsMotor 发表于 2012-9-4 17:47
有一台换过HID。。。。。。

坑爹啊，难道换HID会坏 ecu？

爱国爱港

ilmaro 发表于 2012-9-4 20:47
哦，就发动机而言，PSA的HDI技术还是不错的，和TDI有得一拼。但买这种车，最怕的也就是别的子系统不稳定了 ...

http://www.dogandlemon.com/articles/diesels

You probably think that modern diesels are better than earlier models but you may be wrong. Although many improvements have been made over the years, big, reliable, chugging diesels are rapidly going the way of the dinosaur. The ever-growing need for better fuel economy, less pollution and greater performance has meant that diesel engines have been pushed beyond their limits by over-eager vehicle manufacturers.

Traditional diesel engines were heavily built and rarely worked very hard. Because they rarely worked very hard, the engine lasted a long time.

By comparison, most modern diesels have turbochargers – giant air pumps – pushing pressurised air through them to make the engine work at least a quarter harder. As the engine works at least a quarter harder, so the engine parts and cooling system have to work at least a quarter harder. Some of this extra strain can be taken up with skilful engine designs and higher quality parts, but there’s a limit to this.

The latest generation of diesel engines, termed common-rail diesels, are the most efficient diesel engines ever made, and when fitted to a car offer good levels of power and acceleration comparable to petrol engines.

However, many turbocharged common-rail diesel engines work harder than any other diesels in history. No matter how solidly they are made, we do not believe that they will last as long as their less hard-working cousins of old.
France is the world centre for small diesel engines. Diesels account for most of the new cars sold in France and in Europe generally.

There is already plenty of evidence of problems with the new generation of European common rail diesel engines, even when relatively new.  However, there are far worse problems down the track, after the vehicles leave warranty. European diesel engines (like their petrol siblings) are designed to be used in one vehicle for a fixed period of time and then disposed of.  They are computer controlled and everything from the high tech fuel pumps to the exhaust system is designed to work together as one whole unit.  Without the computer and the sensors in the exhaust pipe, the diesel will not run properly.

The European carmakers know this of course – in five or ten years’ time when their diesel becomes uneconomic to fix or will no longer pass emissions checks, they’ll be waiting around to sell you a whole new vehicle. The rest of the car will probably be junk.

Peugeot diesels use a silicon carbide honeycomb filter that absorbs pollution, then every 500km or so the filter system oxidizes the absorbed pollutants by injecting a small amount of fuel and a rare-earth-derived additive called Eolys to superheat the exhaust and burn off the soot left behind by burning diesel.

Very clever no doubt, and we believe Peugeot’s claim that the system eliminates 95% of pollution – when new. However, given Peugeot’s woeful reputation for reliability even with existing technology, hands up everyone who thinks this system will still be working reliably and economically in ten years’ time? Thought not.

爱国爱港

jinxin56 发表于 2012-9-4 15:58
6速手波 没坐过。。。其他版本的一律软弱无力。。。

1.3L引擎是这样的

ilmaro

爱国爱港 发表于 2012-9-4 21:31
http://www.dogandlemon.com/articles/diesels

You probably think that modern diesels are better t ...

谢谢兄弟，学习了。说实话，我一向是反对增压的，特别是铝制发动机使用增加。柴油机本身结构简单，可靠性是经得起考验的。铸铁件虽然笨重，但是承压性能良好。全铝制后，我相信现在的合金技术也是有可靠性的，但是相对来说，增压以后的可靠性，我也有疑问。但不管如何，眼光总要向前看，科技是在进步的，开放的胸怀还是要有的。解决了高压直喷系统的稳定和可靠性后，我相信柴油发动机还是将来的发展方向。就目前而言，这一系统已趋完善，剩下的，就看厂商的良心了，愿意花多少成本去保证可靠性了。

KsMotor

jinxin56 发表于 2012-9-4 21:27
坑爹啊，难道换HID会坏 ecu？

蛋定蛋定，那么多人都换了，都没坏，机率跟中lotto一样，真坏了那可能是人品不咋地，哈

jinxin56

KsMotor 发表于 2012-9-4 22:02
蛋定蛋定，那么多人都换了，都没坏，机率跟中lotto一样，真坏了那可能是人品不咋地，哈

不早和我说。。。这下坑爹了。。
不然，Kevin哥分析下装HID坏ECU的原理？

二手的ecu什么价格。。。

KsMotor

jinxin56 发表于 2012-9-4 22:18
不早和我说。。。这下坑爹了。。
不然，Kevin哥分析下装HID坏ECU的原理？

那要请大神回答，我不喜欢长篇大论，像写作文一样，而且文笔也没那么好，不然就不用修车了！！

jinxin56

KsMotor 发表于 2012-9-4 22:25
那要请大神回答，我不喜欢长篇大论，像写作文一样，而且文笔也没那么好，不然就不用修车了！！

我这回真的是花钱找罪受。。。躺着也中枪。。。副厂的HID真心伤不起啊~！

KsMotor

jinxin56 发表于 2012-9-4 22:34
我这回真的是花钱找罪受。。。躺着也中枪。。。副厂的HID真心伤不起啊~！

应该不会弄坏电脑吧，没事，坏了告国内厂家，讹他一笔！