最近想换车，大家觉得长城的SUV怎么样？

拉普拉斯

如题。搜索了一下以往的帖，基本都是3年前长城刚刚登陆NZ时的帖，3年过去了，大家有什么更多的COMMENT吗？

想选择长城一来是想支持一下民族工业，二是这车的价格确实灰常吸引人，11年的新车才2万左右，配置也还不错。很适合我这种喜欢开4＊4但又没钱的穷鬼啊。

d17

车不错，但是国内比较新的款这里都没的卖，长城学日本人阿，好东西都留给本国，二流的卖出去坑爹

d17

cutebb520 发表于 2012-1-26 12:27
说反了吧，好东西出口，差的内销

没说反，长城国内很多新车这里都没有

拉普拉斯

嗯，好像SUV这里就只有一个型号。UTE也只有一个型号。

另， UNLEADED是汽油引擎吗？

飘一季心情

支持国货~~~~

$ZERO$

d17 发表于 2012-1-26 13:40
没说反，长城国内很多新车这里都没有

安全和尾排不达标的不给进来卖。。。具体长城占了哪一样，那就不清楚啦

sevenstar

国内挺多人开，没问题的

高飞

感觉发动机的排量有点小，不过买的人还是不少了，经常在路上看到长城皮卡

拉普拉斯

高飞 发表于 2012-1-26 14:06
感觉发动机的排量有点小，不过买的人还是不少了，经常在路上看到长城皮卡

国内还是这边？

爱国爱港

买新车应该没什么问题......

爱国爱港

d17 发表于 2012-1-26 12:24
车不错，但是国内比较新的款这里都没的卖，长城学日本人阿，好东西都留给本国，二流的卖出去坑爹

希望国内比较新的不要搞什么GDI、CVT、DSG那些“高”科技哦

爱国爱港

d17 发表于 2012-1-26 12:40
没说反，长城国内很多新车这里都没有

纽西兰市场不够大，新车消流得慢

大内密探007

看杂志说长城，如果没钱想买车，就买长城的，一定买最便宜的，因为贵的和普通的一样烂。

looking4bargain

认识个买了的朋友说，买新车，开3年再换新的。。。。。。他就是这么做的，说挺好。。。。。

高飞

拉普拉斯 发表于 2012-1-26 13:12
国内还是这边？

这里啊，长城SUV不是很常见看到过一两次，长城皮卡比较常见

取暖基本靠抖

楼主买完了说说心得，也好鼓励大家买国产。。。。。。

高飞

爱国爱港 发表于 2012-1-26 14:42
纽西兰市场不够大，新车消流得慢

这里的中国车都是配置很低的车型，估计是主攻低价市场

PCCare

去试开过，只有手拨档。开起来累啊。档位不是很清晰，特别是1档和倒车档。配置还行。前排座位是电动的，不过SALES教我调节时候，居然把按钮的塑料建都弄下来了。无语了，直接走人。不过LZ真的要支持国货，买长城比买奇瑞好。

netghost1861

d17 发表于 2012-1-26 12:24
车不错，但是国内比较新的款这里都没的卖，长城学日本人阿，好东西都留给本国，二流的卖出去坑爹

长城出口的都是久经市场考验的成熟车型，非常保守的东西，耐用，问题少，才敢出口过来，不至于把牌子砸了。
而国内市场可以用来试验新品，国人最喜欢追逐新潮，出了问题也没有严格的法律消费者赔偿，而且国内出问题的新车还真不少，论坛上比比皆是。
你看中国厂商 长城奇瑞吉利，国内AT的车子满街跑了，为啥出口来的一开始、或者大部分都是MT的？很简单，不敢卖AT。

netghost1861

爱国爱港 发表于 2012-1-26 14:41
希望国内比较新的不要搞什么GDI、CVT、DSG那些“高”科技哦

CVT是大势所趋，虽有过不成熟，但却是未来。
就想当年的直喷一样，GDI是牺牲品，不过现在的直喷车越来越多了。

爱国爱港

netghost1861 发表于 2012-1-26 19:02
CVT是大势所趋，虽有过不成熟，但却是未来。
就想当年的直喷一样，GDI是牺牲品，不过现在的直喷车越来越 ...

CVT里面传动的钢带到了一定公里会断，不知道哪啊个厂家能解决CVT先天性问题。否则你摆一个CVT在一部新车里面，就是等于强迫车主到一定公里号要换车

yanzi_lee

别的不说 我觉得外观就很阳刚 有米我也换长城啦

netghost1861

爱国爱港 发表于 2012-1-26 20:45
CVT里面传动的钢带到了一定公里会断，不知道哪啊个厂家能解决CVT先天性问题。否则你摆一个CVT在一部新车里 ...

多少公里数？这是重点。

厂商设计只要能在车辆报废年限内不断就成功了。

毕竟这年头，断钢带几乎只是个传说。

爱国爱港

netghost1861 发表于 2012-1-27 20:33
多少公里数？这是重点。

厂商设计只要能在车辆报废年限内不断就成功了。

http://www.dogandlemon.com/articles/automatics-cvt-transmissions

CVT Transmissions

Back in the 1950s, some automatic transmissions had only two gears. Two-speed transmissions were a pain, because when you were going up a hill you only had two options: first or second gear; it screamed in first gear or lost power in second. Then, as you went faster, the transmission was screaming because it needed an extra gear but didn’t have one.

Two-speed automatics were not only inconvenient to use, but they robbed the car’s engine of much of its power and drank fuel like there was no tomorrow.

You may never notice it, but your four or five-speed automatic suffers from the same problems as the two-speed one described above: it never gets the gears quite right. That’s why cars with conventional automatics never put out quite as much power as those with a manual gearbox and almost always use more fuel.

In the 1950s, a Dutch company called DAF came up with a new type of automatic transmission that solved the problems described above. Instead of having a small, fixed number of gears, DAF’s gearbox simply made up the gearing as it went along; the DAF transmission could change itself internally to produce a wide range of different gears, each one perfectly suited to the road conditions and driving style of that vehicle. The Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) was born.

There are no fixed gears (e.g., first, second, third, and so on) in a CVT. The transmission simply invents the right gear at the right time. In theory a CVT is the ideal gearbox.

In practice, however, most modern CVT gearboxes suffer from the same problems as their ancestors: because they don’t have gears (like on the back wheel of a bicycle), many CVTs use belts instead, like the one that goes around your waist. The problem is, these transmission belts break, no matter how well they’re made. When they break, the whole transmission has to come out, generally for a complete overhaul at great expense. CVT gearboxes that use chains are better, but they still break.

The carmakers knew this when they put these CVT transmissions onto the market, but they also knew that most of the CVTs wouldn’t break until the vehicle was out of guarantee, meaning it wouldn’t be the carmakers’ problem. However, even that scam didn’t work: both Nissan’s and Honda’s CVTs have been subject to multiple recalls, some on almost-new vehicles. It’s possible that someone will eventually figure out how to build a CVT transmission that lasts as long as a conventional manual gearbox, but we’re not holding our breath. In the meantime, the evidence to date suggests that CVT transmissions can easily become a nightmare for car owners.

The fact that many CVT transmissions die young shouldn’t be your problem; the easiest option is to simply avoid CVT transmissions entirely!

netghost1861

爱国爱港 发表于 2012-1-27 20:50
http://www.dogandlemon.com/articles/automatics-cvt-transmissions

CVT Transmissions

多少公里数断？ 还是没看到。 没看到就是没意义的。就像说：引擎到一定公里数一定会坏一样，没意义。

“someone will eventually figure out how to build a CVT transmission that lasts as long as a conventional manual gearbox”
这句话是重点。

看看尼桑十几年来，雄心壮志，胆敢押宝在CVT上，不是没有道理的。

爱国爱港

netghost1861 发表于 2012-1-27 21:09
多少公里数断？ 还是没看到。 没看到就是没意义的。就像说：引擎到一定公里数一定会坏一样，没意义。

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纽西兰新车保修期是多少呢？举例纽西兰三菱的Powertrain warranty是10 year / 160,000km

爱国爱港

netghost1861 发表于 2012-1-27 21:09
多少公里数断？ 还是没看到。 没看到就是没意义的。就像说：引擎到一定公里数一定会坏一样，没意义。

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看看尼桑十几年来，雄心壮志，胆敢押宝在CVT上，不是没有道理的。

所以我从来不会在sky建议人家买带CVT的尼桑，请问你为什么那么迷恋CVT呢？明明是一个五十年来都改良不好的排档设计？

Dog and Lemon的确是买车天书，把一些有问题的机器设计斗出来，让消费者不会被车厂蒙骗