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felicia8585

非常訝異Ben and Libby的房價, 因為洋人電台也討論,都說很容易過 1 million.但卻沒有.至少四個房子都賣出了!

Lease

What sort of value do u reckon?

awesome.possum

too close to main road..............

manchild

四个房子差不多，为什么第一个买到96万？

manchild

HILLCREST像居民区，静 。ANZAC像商业区，乱。

Lease

manukau1234 发表于 2012-9-6 22:17
i compare recent auction, one at hillcrest ( one old house , stanaway)  with many asian bidders an ...

Every property has two types of values: market value and intrinsic value. MV is fools game. The more fools participate, the higher MV. Unfortunately, property professionals, ie, registered valuers, are part of those fools as they value property at MV.

IV is worked out by using financial model, which is more sophsticated, but more close to real value.

When I purchase an investment property, I have a framework to follow. Calculation of IV is one of means to assist me to make decision.

Although investing is more arts than science, I think a serious property investor should understand how to work out a property' intrinsic value.

winny

房屋估价师

74号的装修的感觉要比78号差很多，但是最后的结果74号还是太便宜了。拍的顺序好像是从估价最高的到最低的 （拍之前，有估价师做过估价）。

proinv

Recently I have seen lots of auction and agree that auction price is a complex result of house itself and people's psychology and emotion. So calculate and do due delligence is so important and to be reasonable and not emotional when take part in the auction.

felicia8585

四个房子差不多，为什么第一个买到96万？

這節目我從頭看到尾,他們有太陽能板(省電)heat pump和中央控溫系統,客廳有個大的落地窗(分三段)可完全推到底,廚房是瓦斯,客廳餐廳廚房非常大,是典型洋人風格的設計!

Lease

manukau1234 发表于 2012-9-6 23:19
if you use intrinciv value to value 74 anzac, what kind of price range you reckon?

Without detailed information, I can't tell, and I don't intend to disclose more about intrinsic value as it's my unique means.

But I can tell you my story: I started to buy investment houses in 2001, and bought houses in five consecutive years, and then ceased buying in 2005 because I couldn't find AKL houses which their MV are lower than IV. Such situation has been continuing even the market has been experiencing through GFC. Put another way, since 2005, I have been unable to find cheap AKL houses. In 2010, I purchased a few CBD apartments as my calculation showed those apartments MV were 30-50% lower than their IV. Today, you can still find apartments MV lower than IV, but the gap is much smaller.

manchild

Top TV do-up home to become an office.

阿海

intrinsic value:

1) the street looks nice
2) nice section with view
3) flat section with privacy and big backyard for my kids
4) exclusive backyard on my unit so I can relax and no one can see me

doesn't require maths to work that out bro...

PS: don't pay for nice things, work out your yield.

Lease

阿海 发表于 2012-9-7 13:02
intrinsic value:

1) the street looks nice

You haven't got full picture of intrinsic value. What you have listed is qualitative factors, there are quantitative factors as well. It's certainly to have math involved.

阿海

Lease 发表于 2012-9-7 13:22
You haven't got full picture of intrinsic value. What you have listed is qualitative factors, ther ...

你只是找些原因安慰自己买高了价钱吧？

Lease

manukau1234 发表于 2012-9-7 13:36
care to share your property portfolio value
eg houses,
apartments

Sorry can't tell, that's my privacy.

Lease

阿海 发表于 2012-9-7 13:37
你只是找些原因安慰自己买高了价钱吧？

Little Kid you think you know everything?

You may be superior in terms of property investment than most of people in this forum. But if you think you can challenge me, I can only say you are naive.

阿海

Lease 发表于 2012-9-7 13:45
Little Kid you think you know everything?

You may be superior in terms of property investment t ...

Lease

阿海 发表于 2012-9-7 13:46

小兄弟, 作为过来人大哥多说一句, 别以为你投了几幢房子, 你师傅带了带你, 就自以为是可以目中无人了. 做人还是低调谦卑点为好, 否则你会吃亏的.

阿海

Lease 发表于 2012-9-7 13:51
小兄弟, 作为过来人大哥多说一句, 别以为你投了几幢房子, 你师傅带了带你, 就自以为是可以目中无人了. 做 ...

现在是你低调点还是我低调点啊？

我都不跟你吵了是你自己show off又不愿意跟别人分享自己经验啊。

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阿海 发表于 2012-9-7 13:52
现在是你低调点还是我低调点啊？

我都不跟你吵了是你自己show off又不愿意跟别人分享自己经验啊。

其实我很低调, 但我没有必要在你面前低调.

阿海

Lease 发表于 2012-9-7 13:53
其实我很低调, 但我没有必要在你面前低调.

随便你怎么说吧。

我也可以‘低调’啊，我不帮助众多网友就好啦。

Lease

阿海 发表于 2012-9-7 13:57
随便你怎么说吧。

我也可以‘低调’啊，我不帮助众多网友就好啦。

小兄弟, 坦诚一点吧, 你好象是在帮助众网友, 但你敢说你没有任何Show off 的想法?

阿海

Lease 发表于 2012-9-7 14:00
小兄弟, 坦诚一点吧, 你好象是在帮助众网友, 但你敢说你没有任何Show off 的想法?

我发帖两个目的：
1）给大家免费建议
2）给我教练打广告（斑竹本来就有这个优惠）

show off, 你什么时候看到我发帖说我又买了xxx个房子，赚了多少多少钱呢？