大众 DSG 变速箱 问题

z124949693

貌似最近国内又在爆DSG变速箱的问题  说什么 死亡闪烁 突然加速 动力切断 之类的问题  我想知道NZ的大众车有没有此类问题，自己开的gti用的7速DSG变速箱，比较担心这个问题  不知道新西兰有没有对DSG升级 召回 之类的服务，还有TSI 配上DGS是什么经典组合   到底经典在哪里，平常我车开起来也没啥不正常的感觉，但是看了一些文章后心里有点没底，听说后期保养需要上千块，希望有懂DSG的高手教教小弟

ljn0470

git上的7速双离合和国内1.4 1.8T上的双离合不一样的

微苦蓝山

哎，表瞎起哄啦，8一样的。。。。

mojo76

听说那些问题跟不正确使用自动波有关，如没有停住就换后退（前进）档，行车过程中换到N档。这些行为在传统AT上已经是不好的，在DSG上面，就更甚。

ilmaro

ljn0470 发表于 2012-6-3 18:27
git上的7速双离合和国内1.4 1.8T上的双离合不一样的

如果有空，可以参考一下我的贴子，专门讲到DSG变速箱。。。。。

高飞

ilmaro 发表于 2012-6-3 19:56
如果有空，可以参考一下我的贴子，专门讲到DSG变速箱。。。。。

你的帖子比较长，我一般都只看最后一段

ilmaro

高飞 发表于 2012-6-3 21:57
你的帖子比较长，我一般都只看最后一段

哈哈哈哈。。。。。。不长难以说清啊。。。。不说清，你会拿砖砸我滴。。。。

jinxin56

砖家在这里

http://blog.autohome.com.cn/article/7042.html

高飞

ilmaro 发表于 2012-6-3 22:54
哈哈哈哈。。。。。。不长难以说清啊。。。。不说清，你会拿砖砸我滴。。。。

我喜欢拿豆腐砸人

高飞

Problems and Recall of DSG-equipped vehicles

[edit] United States of America

In August 2009, Volkswagen of America issued two recalls of DSG-equipped vehicles. The first involved 13,500 vehicles,[23] and was to address unplanned shifts to the neutral gear,[23] while the second involved similar problems (by then attributed to faulty temperature sensors) and applied to 53,300 vehicles.[23][24][25] These recalls arose as a result of investigations carried out by the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA),[26] where owners reported to the NHTSA a loss of power whilst driving.[23] This investigation preliminary found only 2008 and 2009 model year vehicles as being affected.[23][26]

Other markets, such as Volkswagen group Australia, are yet to admit this being a widespread issue and refuse to offer similar recall programs as their US counterparts, even though multiple reports of similar incidents and failures have occurred.

[edit] China

Since 2009 there have been widespread concerns from Chinese consumers particularly among the online community, expressed that Volkswagen has failed to respond to complaints about defects in its DSG-equipped vehicles. Typical issues associated with 6-speed DSG include abnormal noise and unable to change gear; while issues associated with 7-speed DSG include abnormal noise, excessive shift shock, abnormal increase in engine RPM, flashing gear indicator on the dashboard as well as unable to shift to even-numbered gears.[27] In March 2012 China’s quality watchdog the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine (AQSIQ) has said it has been in contact with Volkswagen (China) and urged the carmaker to probe the issues.[28][29] In a survey held by Gasgoo.com (China) of the 2,937 industry experts and insiders, 83% respondent believe that the carmaker should consider a full vehicle recall.[30] In March 2012 Volkswagen Group China has admitted there could be an issue in its seven-speed DSG gearboxes that may affect approximately 500,000 vehicles from its various subsidiaries in China.[31] A software upgrade has since been offered to the affected vehicles in an attempt to repair the problem.

According to 163.com - one the China's most popular web portals, in March 2012 about a quarter of the complaints about problems found in cars in China's automotive market were against DSG-equipped vehicles manufactured by Volkswagen.[32] The top five models that dominate those complaints were:
Volkswagen Magotan - 6%
Volkswagen Bora - 5.3%
Volkswagen Sagitar - 5.3%
Volkswagen Touareg - 4.7%
Volkswagen Golf - 4%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox

z124949693

好深奥都  有没有新手可以看懂的

z124949693

jinxin56 发表于 2012-6-3 23:08
砖家在这里

http://blog.autohome.com.cn/article/7042.html

看过了   我就是看了这个帖子才问的   但是半天没看懂

楠楠LOVE

简单一点给你说,DSG是电脑离合 ,我们正常开手拨车,离合新的时候,跟磨损个5000公里,行程是不一样的,但是我们人的大脑会根据离合磨损的变化调整踩离合器的位置,但是DSG 电脑就不行了,离合新的时候DSG能找准位置,但是磨损过了,DSG电脑就 判断不好离合行程了,就像新手开手拨车一样,换档一顿一顿的,至于熄火,换错档,完全就是硬件质量问题了

楠楠LOVE

所以说换档顿挫,是肯定肯定会发生的,因为离合器一定会磨损,这是天生的毛病,但人与人感觉不同,国内的VW迷不称为顿挫,他们认为可以接受,他们认为所有车换档都这样,呵呵.至于其它的毛病,应该说看人品,确实爱坏,但也不是每个都坏.

dancer

楠楠LOVE 发表于 2012-6-4 08:45
简单一点给你说,DSG是电脑离合 ,我们正常开手拨车,离合新的时候,跟磨损个5000公里,行程是不一样的,但是我们 ...

电脑有一个设定叫重新匹配。

楠楠LOVE

dancer 发表于 2012-6-4 10:56
电脑有一个设定叫重新匹配。

你不可能天天去4S 调匹配，可离合磨损却无时无刻的在进行，换档顿挫无法避免，而且即使调了匹配，依然顿挫

爱国爱港

请教开GOLF GTI的哥们，DSG波箱真的那么脆弱吗？？？
http://bbs.skykiwi.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1891390&highlight=dsg

永远潜水

TSI跟DSG是经典问题组合，TSI也有自己的毛病，感觉大众标榜TSI是最先进的发动机技术是未来的趋势什么的 都是给自己穿上技术领先的马甲忽悠人用的

michaelfs

记得以前看过一个帖子说，好像国内有问题的都是1.4T的7速干式DSG的，据说是划阀箱sensor的问题。楼主的应该是这个变速器。另外1.8T和2.0T的是湿式6速DSG。

A-M-A

这边的MK6 GTI是6速DSG啊，不是干式的，楼主开GTI的话加我们群咯NZ VW HOT HATCH CLUB，221784949

z124949693

A-M-A 发表于 2012-6-5 20:32
这边的MK6 GTI是6速DSG啊，不是干式的，楼主开GTI的话加我们群咯NZ VW HOT HATCH CLUB，221784949

可我这个就是7速啊

michaelfs

z124949693 发表于 2012-6-6 01:26
可我这个就是7速啊

7速干式的型号为DQ200, 能最大承受250Nm.

6速湿式的型号为DQ250, 能最大承受350Nm.

楼主查查看你的变速器型号和车的扭距参数，应该就能知道是哪款了吧。 （普通golf好像是7速的，而golf gti一般是6速的，因为扭距太大了。）

A-M-A

z124949693 发表于 2012-6-6 01:26
可我这个就是7速啊

你的是POLO GTI啊？我以为你在说GOLF呢，呵呵。