说说新西兰价格被炒到虚高的车 抛砖引玉

drivel

hkw516 发表于 2015-12-9 11:23
三菱开始把重点放回军工生产了

新潜艇，新运输机，新反潜机，新直升机母舰，新坦克，新隐身战斗机，等等 ...

三菱重工和三菱汽车几乎已经没有什么太大关系了
三菱汽车现在落魄的样子，也只能怪当年自己做的事情太遭人唾弃
Fuso 都已经独立出来了

drivel

hkw516 发表于 2016-1-13 16:24
三菱有机会的话一定会再做当年的事情

三菱从来都是在准备着的

我觉得你说的当年的事情，不是我说的当年的事情

我指的是当年三菱之耻导致今天三菱汽车的没落

drivel

hkw516 发表于 2016-1-13 16:28
我们说的确实不同

是从另外一个方面证明三菱的邪恶

我的意思是说

其实三菱汽车今天的萎靡，其实和三菱重工没啥太大关系，三菱重工现在持股也不过10%多而已

要怪只能怪三菱汽车当年的丑闻，后来日本民众拒买，全球销量遭重创才导致的，并不是因为把资金转移到其他地方才导致的

paulwood

大部分人选车都很注重美观，就凭 tiida 那丑陋的屁股，就能少卖 10%， 再加上和 Renault Megane 共用底盘等质量问题，20% 一点都不冤，再加上你卖的时候不也多卖 20% 吗？

skysadness

paulwood 发表于 2016-1-13 17:04
大部分人选车都很注重美观，就凭 tiida 那丑陋的屁股，就能少卖 10%， 再加上和 Renault Megane 共用底盘等 ...

审美各自有不同。。 但是  Renault Megane 共用底盘等质量问题   这个是怎么回事？？

paulwood

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/14/ ... n-consumer-reports/

skysadness

paulwood 发表于 2016-1-13 18:47
http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/14/autos/nissan-customer-satisfaction-consumer-reports/

就说消费者报告对尼桑不满意。。。但是没什么干货，而且通篇没有提到tiida

paulwood

http://www.drive.com.au/used-car ... 20130829-2ss7c.html

paulwood

The pressure drop will usually happen overnight, so make sure you try to start the engine from dead cold.

If the owner has already warmed the engine, be a bit suspicious and arrange to return next morning for a proper cold start.

If the motor takes lots of cranking before it fires and then runs perfectly, the fuel regulator would be the lead suspect.

Speaking of fuel, some owners found the Tiida’s fuel economy to be greater than they had been expecting.

Our suspicions would be that this is down to the transmission having just four gears when most of the competition had five or six for better economy.

If it’s a manual-gearbox car you’re looking for, be aware that the Tiida in this form can be a little tricky to drive.

The engine seems to want to hang on to its revs for a second or two after the throttle has been released and this, combined with a clutch pedal that had almost no feel to allow you to judge take-up point, can make for jerky progress until you get the hang of the car.

The gearshift quality itself is nothing to write home about, either.

The Tiida has been the subject of a couple of safety recalls. The first one concerned early-build cars which had the potential for their tail-light clusters to suddenly stop working.

The second one was also for early build cars (up to June 2006) and was to check and replace electrical components which could fail for no good reason, allowing the car to stall and be unable to be restarted.

Any examples affected by these recalls should have been seen to by now, but a Nissan dealer can check an inpidual car’s VIN and tell you whether it was affected and/or fixed.

skysadness

paulwood 发表于 2016-1-14 05:17
The pressure drop will usually happen overnight, so make sure you try to start the engine from dead  ...

黑了一下燃油压力，但是没有切实证据，通篇都是“if”，论坛里也没有tiida朋友抱怨过冷启动困难的。
黑了一下离合器手感，但是大家nz都开自动的。
黑了一下4AT，可以，但是4AT满街都是啊。
我还是没找到什么质量问题。

paulwood

这不是 if ，这是实实在在用户的投诉。

http://cars.automotive.com/nissan/versa/2014/recalls/t3-12-2-1/

skysadness

paulwood 发表于 2016-1-14 15:55
这不是 if ，这是实实在在用户的投诉。

http://cars.automotive.com/nissan/versa/2014/recalls/t3-12-2-1 ...

2012-2015 Nissan Versa sedan
那么对于更早的尼桑tiida有没有这个问题？

paulwood

https://www.cars.com/articles/20 ... ality-study-scores/

skysadness

paulwood 发表于 2016-1-14 17:22
https://www.cars.com/articles/2013/06/gm-rises-nissan-plummets-in-new-jd-power-quality-study-scores/

尼桑质量排名下降了，然后呢，没有干货。。。。你是在考验我的阅读能力吗？各种丢个沾边的文章来给我看