不知道哪个工作前途比较好，是护士还是药剂师呢？

kickasskid

li.ht 发表于 2011-12-18 12:50
我开什么玩笑？ 都是按照COLLECTIVE AGREEMENT 上发的，这不算隐私，就像 HYPOERTHERMIA 说的，发多少各行 ...

我觉得你这个靠谱， new grad 怎么可能会有32d/pr.  新西兰的没几个行业一毕业就超过30d/hr

rebecca123

Next year is my final year in nursing, I am worried I wont be able to find a job, or a decent job. A couple of my friends who graduated last year only found a job a few months ago and some of them are working outside of Auckland. I think there are way too many philipano and indian nurses in hospitals, most of them arent even trained locally, it is good for the government to hire them for a lower amount of wages I suppose... Most nursing job ads on seek and trademe require at least a couple years of experience. I studied a conjoint of nursing and health science so if I really cant find a hospital job with NetP then I might have to look into getting a non-clinical role...

strongberry

rebecca123 发表于 2011-12-18 18:53
Next year is my final year in nursing, I am worried I wont be able to find a job, or a decent job. A ...

just wonder what "non-clinical" role are you talking about? Thx

上海老友找朱强

记忆力要够好，背化学名词的....{:7_336:}

rebecca123

haha I dont actually know, health science graduates usually take up entry level jobs at different NGOs and DHBs, I guess it involves a bit of research and policy analysis etc. I am interested in public health but I understand I will need to brush up my nursing skills first and that is why I want to find a job in a hospital -_-'. Can you please give me some advice on how to choose which area to go for my pre-reg placement? What is surgical wards like? I have only been to older peoples health and different mental health placements, ACH acute inpatient, mason clinic, greenlane clinical centre MHSOP. I think paediatrics would be interesting even though I dont really like children too much haha...

碎芯、

bluntblunt 发表于 2011-12-16 22:50
很多人都想知道，这个是什么工作，我很直接的说，就是奥克兰医院的护士。如果每个护士都能拿90块一个小时 ...

你说的护士90时薪应该是偶尔在私人诊所作外科手术的时候吧？我有朋友是管理私家诊所的，医生在私人诊所拿到的时薪大概是100到200块，护士能拿到90也不奇怪，但都是特别高端的医生或护士。

strongberry

rebecca123 发表于 2011-12-18 23:13
haha I dont actually know, health science graduates usually take up entry level jobs at different NG ...

as an new grad, i think if u want to work in a ward, u can try paediatric  intensive care which is good for u to learn good nursing skills and for your future advanced career, because paeds nurses are always short...but if u don't like children, i think surgical is better..but personally i don't like ward environment, you can try operating theatre if you never been which is good for new grad too..hope this help~

rebecca123

thanks:) When do you think is a good time to start applying for jobs? I think the state examination is around November next year. Would June/July be too early?

strongberry

rebecca123 发表于 2011-12-19 09:37
thanks:) When do you think is a good time to start applying for jobs? I think the state examination  ...

i think around august or september，but when the time close by, you will know from all different hospitals' ads about the new grad programme 's application closing date...i cant remember exactly because i did this a few years ago la ...maybe thing changed quite a lot now

cx20072008

bluntblunt 发表于 2011-12-16 22:50
很多人都想知道，这个是什么工作，我很直接的说，就是奥克兰医院的护士。如果每个护士都能拿90块一个小时 ...

你所说的那是非常个别某个人，而且至于怎么拿到这样的薪水没有个具体的说法, 我和你所说的是护士在新西兰工资的定位，让我和你说一下吧，正常情况下一个学成毕业的护士找到工作后工资不到5w, 工资是随着level的升高而增加的一般一个满3年的护士也就6w左右(加班或夜班，double pay除外), 这位朋友不要一例当百例，我身边朋友好多护士，基本都是这情况, 还真不像你说的那样隐瞒自已的pay rate, 因为都是朋友没这个必要，在说也不在一个医院或课室,我不排除有例外可能会是像你说的那样但可以负责的说少之又少,但千万不要误导楼主认为这就是护士通常情况下可拿到的这样工资, NZ的大环境就是这样，什么事都有例外，但不希望你真正进入这行发现和自已想像的差距太大，心理接受不了，是药剂还是护士楼主根据自身情况自己估量，如果身边有朋友的话也多咨询一下实际的情况，接收一些朴实的意见

nzaucklander

肯定药剂师好了

rebecca123

The other thing about pay scale I know is that certain DHBs receive more funding because they serve a 'high-need' population i.e Maori and Pacific Islanders so Middlemore tend to pay a bit higher compared to other hospitals.

rebecca123

True true...Do you think it is worthwhile to study an extra year to get honours? How much of a difference does it make? And for new grads, do employers prefer someone with experience working in health care (e.g. as a health care assistant) or someone with really good grades? Are the interviews difficult ? (some say they are harder than others).

strongberry

rebecca123 发表于 2011-12-19 10:56
True true...Do you think it is worthwhile to study an extra year to get honours? How much of a diffe ...

as a nurse, as long as you have ur registration, it doesnt matter whether you are having just a bachelor of nursing or honours degree..it wont change your pay rate..even it doesnt matter where you graduated from...some of my friend just have a bachelor of nursing and no experience of working in health care, they still have the chance to interview and get the job they wanted..

it is not difficult to have the interview~depends on how you think for the patient as a nurse..i believe you will be fine...

original.sara

请问楼主，英文够了么，否则没什么可选的，（ 好像护士的要求比pharmxx高）。
另外如果是根据赚钱而决定，我建议不要选护士，做护士是要有爱心和敬业的，这样工作的时候才会快乐， 否则的话就会觉得很辛苦了。
另外，我也可以透露一下，至于工资，做护士和药剂师都不会发财的：）因为是为人民服务行业，如果这两个行业都发财了，人们就看不起病了-（除非是私人的企业， 可那又不是普通的职员了）

rebecca123

thanks again :) !

strongberry

original.sara 发表于 2011-12-19 15:52
请问楼主，英文够了么，否则没什么可选的，（ 好像护士的要求比pharmxx高）。
另外如果是根据赚钱而决定， ...

我已经干了好几年护士了。。要读的post都读了。。所以才有点厌倦，才想换换专业~
不过发现药剂师也要读太久了。。也没有比护士好多少。。可能就是少了夜班~

strongberry

rebecca123 发表于 2011-12-19 17:02
thanks again :) !

不客气~

hyperthermia

rebecca123 发表于 2011-12-18 23:13
haha I dont actually know, health science graduates usually take up entry level jobs at different NG ...

Usually post-grad clinical experience is required for non-clinical roles, such as sales, NGOs, gov't, public health, academia, etc.

hyperthermia

strongberry 发表于 2011-12-19 21:41
我已经干了好几年护士了。。要读的post都读了。。所以才有点厌倦，才想换换专业~
不过发现药剂师也要读太 ...

那ultrasound看来真是个不错的选择了。压力小，体面，坐着上班，30分钟一个appointment，高薪，而且只需要再学一两年，未来还有去澳洲发展的机会（lz可以先去seek上查查市场变没变）。

国内b超师师医生，在西方虽然不是，但一般b超师都会做初步诊断（initial impression），然后报告交给radiologist复读签字，所以sonographers的技术含量也是很高的。

strongberry

hyperthermia 发表于 2011-12-19 22:10
那ultrasound看来真是个不错的选择了。压力小，体面，坐着上班，30分钟一个appointment，高薪，而且只需要 ...

谢谢哦~~还不知道nz的学历是不是在澳洲也承认呢~~？

19780328

吃草的狮子 发表于 2011-12-14 21:56
正规本科毕业的还是不多，如果正规大学本科毕业的，还是能找到工作的

我是指NZ本地的护士和药剂师本來就比較飽和, 不管你是否正规大学本科毕业,
只是舊人(指現正佔着工作岡位的人)不走, 你們新人是進不去的.

因為NZ本地對护士和药剂师的需求沒有國內和澳大利亞那麼大.

strongberry

19780328 发表于 2011-12-20 10:40
我是指NZ本地的护士和药剂师本來就比較飽和, 不管你是否正规大学本科毕业,
只是舊人(指現正佔着工作岡位 ...

国内做护士还真的比在国外更辛苦~

J.tang

据说护士要雅思7.5
药剂师好像不是谁都能读，具体要求可以到学校的网页去看。  
个人认为药剂师比较好。
护士要排班，很忙碌。
而且上班就要接触病人，我很胆小，我不会选做护士。

lanloved

strongberry 发表于 2011-12-16 13:36
sonographer是什么样的课程呢？2年？是边上课边training嘛？能介绍一下这方面的资讯嘛？谢谢哦~

unitec的sonographer课程是要你自己先在医院找到training的位子，才可以读的，难不难读不是关键，关键是位子都很难很难找到，基本在nz都会要求你完成part 1，但是，新西兰只有unitec有这个课程，他有要求先被医院聘用可实习的位子，所以，非常的矛盾，澳洲到是可以去读，不难读，如果，读完找不到实习的岗位是白读。

strongberry

lanloved 发表于 2011-12-20 20:53
unitec的sonographer课程是要你自己先在医院找到training的位子，才可以读的，难不难读不是关键，关键是位 ...

什么是part 1啊？是要求干嘛呢？

19780328

strongberry 发表于 2011-12-20 11:33
国内做护士还真的比在国外更辛苦~

同意!! 辛苦很多!!

lanloved

strongberry 发表于 2011-12-20 21:41
什么是part 1啊？是要求干嘛呢？

part 1光读书，pass了，part 2去医院边工作边学习2年.新西兰医院我看到都招要求过了part 1的，但是unitec他的要求是，你不在医院找到位子，都不会让你开始part 1，这是impossible在新西兰找到啦~

strongberry

lanloved 发表于 2011-12-21 16:19
part 1光读书，pass了，part 2去医院边工作边学习2年.新西兰医院我看到都招要求过了part 1的，但是unitec ...

那岂不在新西兰是不可能通过读post diploma去当b超师？有别的办法吗？？