可不可以请大陆来新西兰建一条高铁啊

海陆

如题....................................

海陆

奥克兰到惠灵顿2.5小时就到了

duncan_kai

新西兰没有钱修才是最主要的.

海陆

国际组合贷款

腿毛菲菲

先通过工会这关。

花天堂

先通过工会这关。
腿毛菲菲 发表于 2010-3-2 14:55

先通過納稅人這關

喜欢海港的风景

没有上座率，半年就得破产。

海陆

6# 花天堂 找个国际有名的游说集团,很容易说服国会的.

duncan_kai

新西兰政府不会答应的,老百姓知道了要这花费这么多纳税人的钱后也会造反的,这个国家4个运营商,就只有一个光传输,你认为还有可能去造高铁?

海陆

可以向国际招标,建和经营一起发标

花天堂

很浪費錢 =.=

臺灣高鐵花了5000億台幣, 大概是250億紐幣, 紐西蘭08/09年的財政收入只有600億紐幣. 其中400億拿去福利/教育/醫療

海陆

在国际招标,不花紐西蘭的一分钱.

花天堂

在国际招标,不花紐西蘭的一分钱.
海陆 发表于 2010-3-2 15:21

人家也不是傻子... 會看這工程是否能回本啊....

陌生的香港人

To build a High Speed Rail in NZ is never as easy as that in China,  it is likely to go thru the following steps:

- First, OnTrack/NZ Rail engages consultants to do a lot of feasibility studies,
  environmental impact assessments, economic analysis, preliminary designs, etc... in
  order to jusify the project..

-  then, OnTrack/NZ Rail then need to "sell" the proposal to all city councils and their
   committees/community boards, along the route - it is a fight between
   OnTrack/KiwiRail vs city councils and their committees for their "buy in"...

-  The designs/routes keep changing to address as many concerns as possible
   from all sorts of people including politicans, urban designers, environmental groups,
   local residents, etc..

- Then, Resource Management Act 這關 to designate the route first, with lot of
   appeals that may happen...

- Then it is Public Works Act (Properties Acquisition) comes to play and numerous
   disputes over compensations

- Then, with appeals from those affected land owners, Environmental groups to the
   Environment Court...

- During this period, undoubtedly, the cost of construction, land purchase, mitigation
   measures, etc $$$ will surely soar up significantly....

- Then, government changed and the new government suddenly decides not to
   proceed as it is too expensive or they simply dont want to, and all the
  studies/designs put back on shelves ...

- It may then become a legendary project decades later and someone may pick it up
  again...

This is the reality of Transport Planning in New Zealand/modern Western World, dont expect anything that big could happen here ...

4444

钱从哪里来呢?
要么从国外贷款,要么增加本国税收....

估计从这两点考虑,百姓们都不会同意吧.....

4444

不过要是有什么特殊政策可以让中国独享的话,中国掏个这钱决定不是问题.

海陆

美国的铁路就是中国人帮忙盖起来的,那请中国人来建个新西兰高铁也是可能的

4444

美国的铁路就是中国人帮忙盖起来的,那请中国人来建个新西兰高铁也是可能的
海陆 发表于 2010-3-2 15:29

你指的帮忙是劳工方面还是设计方面啊??
现在做什么都看利益啦,有利益可拿,干什么都好商量,没利的事情谁做?

derek612

奥克兰一百年前就说要把奥克兰的铁路电气化，现在还没有实现

高铁，下辈子吧

vvra

不太可能
光上environment court就要不知道花多少钱
到时候还不造反

花天堂

不过要是有什么特殊政策可以让中国独享的话,中国掏个这钱决定不是问题.
4444 发表于 2010-3-2 15:28

既然要做夢.... 我也來陪樓主作夢.....

如果南島送給中國大陸的話, 那的確很可能蓋高鐵啊,

海陆

有梦,就有希望

海陆

不用送南岛,可以一起开发南极洲

萨米

LZ shoule make a financial proposal to Key and English. Don't just say.

4444

哈哈哈哈哈哈,LZ的这三个贴,让我无聊的下午突然有了色彩...谢谢LZ...
我想知道LZ的年龄.....

海陆

小弟我十八岁,干活不怕累.

花天堂

小弟我十八岁,干活不怕累.
海陆 发表于 2010-3-2 15:58

恩, 年輕孩子就應該多幹, 不該在這跟大哥哥, 大姐姐混....

4444

小弟我十八岁,干活不怕累.
海陆 发表于 2010-3-2 15:58

难怪....你这三个贴自己留一下,等到25岁的时候再看一下,你会发现很有趣的~~

陌生的香港人

OIC - a little kid...but not bad, at least, you are interested in this sort of thing rather than just like sticking to your PS3

Perhaps LZ is a big fan of SimCity or those "Rail Tycoons" series of computer game - where you can build whatever transport infrastructure and wherever you like (if they got a high speed rail option?);

But in reality, it is not working likes this in the WESTERN world (where you are living) ...

ChicagoBulls

我觉得可以，但是政府必须立法，居民们不许在所居住城市工作和上学
这样每天就有几十万人从惠灵顿坐到奥克兰，再从奥克兰坐到惠灵顿
就养得活高铁啦